Obama Can’t Prove He’s American

drkates view ^ | December 28, 2010 | drkate

[TNTNT]

Everything in post #114 is accurate and truthful. Point one word that is slanted, not truthful or is misleading. Do you have problem with the reasonable solution I and others have proposed for this issue?

[FARS]

You are mixing apples and oranges.

Obama himself signed a declaration that he was eligibile in Arizona? Really?

Disinformation is 90% accuracy and 10% the immportant lies that need to be slipped through hidden inside the truth. Can be stretched to 80/20

Can you document the AZ Obama personal signature? Let us know.

[bannie]

Maybe we asked too much...HONOR. Maybe we were on the honor system.
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[Hotlanta Mike]

[TNTNT]

Yes, I can document AZ Obama signature. It has been on FreeRepublic dozens of times and can be found at http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama. Before I answer any more of your drivel, please answer my previous question about the reasonable solution that has been proposed for this issue.

[edge919]

Each of the states have their own requirements to appear on their respective ballots. Most require an affidavit or certification to be filed with the chief election officers of the state, usually the Sec. of State, certifying the candidate is the nominee is the party and is eligible for the office. Some states require the candidate sign the document, other states do not.

As it turns out, there's a law in the state of Hawaii that would allow any citizen to challenge Obama's inclusion on their presidential ballot. You have to file the challenge within a certain time frame, and the chief elections officer is supposed to grant a hearing ... at which time, you or me or whoever filed the challenge, would have a direct and tangible interest in obtaining a copy of the original birth certificate from the HI Department of Health.

§11-113 Presidential ballots. (e) If the applicant, or any other party, individual, or group with a candidate on the presidential ballot, objects to the finding of eligibility or disqualification the person may, not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the finding, file a request in writing with the chief election officer for a hearing on the question. A hearing shall be called not later than 4:30 p.m. on the tenth day after the receipt of the request and shall be conducted in accord with chapter 91. A decision shall be issued not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the conclusion of the hearing.

[bvw]

Love that!

[PhiloBedo]

Biden is thinking, “Why couldn’t I be like Johnson? Work out a deal with the head of the FBI and this whole mess goes away and I can start my own war.”

[TNTNT]

Yes , I am familiar with that statute. Most, if not all states, have similar statutes regarding ballot challenges. I have been involved in a few in Texas local races. The most recent one had to do with the questionable residency of a democrat candidate for state rep. in the last election. Most contests are of that nature.

My question is why didn't anyone utilize this statute in Hawaii or any other state to challenge Obama’s eligibility in 2008? With these statutes, is a need for additional laws?

[Hotlanta Mike]

Yes, I can document AZ Obama signature. It has been on FreeRepublic dozens of times and can be found at http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama.

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[TNTNT]

It appears part of the link was cutoff, My apologies. Try this link http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf

[TNTNT]

I am not computer literate. LOL Here is the correct link
http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

HA!...thanks, I got carried away..Love Pink floyd...must be the warm weather we had today..

[rolling_stone]

Hawaii kept their regs hidden (internet) until pressed after the election....it was missing from their website..coincidence?

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

OMG!!!

ROFLMAO!

YOU are sooooo right, that is his theme song! Too funny. Go Freepers!!!

[edge919]

My question is why didn't anyone utilize this statute in Hawaii or any other state to challenge Obama’s eligibility in 2008? With these statutes, is a need for additional laws?

I doubt many people were aware of the law in 2008. I also think that most people expected Obama to do the honorable thing and present an original long form birth certificate for public inspection before the election took place. IIUC, a finding of eligibility to be on the ballot is made about 60 days prior to the election, so you have only have either 5 or 15 days after that in which to file an objection. A lot of the most damaging information about the legitimacy of Obama's alleged COLB didn't emerge until after it was too late to file an objection in 2008. This won't be the case in 2012.

[Hotlanta Mike]

That one works, thanks. It’s interesting how each state has different standards, requirements or protocols for national elections.

[TNTNT]

You have accused me of disinformation in another post and it did not take me long to find blatant misstatements and disinformation by you. The was no huge effort by Congress and the democrats to bar McCain on eligibility grounds. Every Senator sign onto the resolution stating Obama was eligible to be POTUS. There was not a single hearing held on the issue. Leahy asked one question to Sec. Chertoff about the issue at a hearing on homeland security and when Chertoff replied it was his opinion that McCain was indeed eligible, Leahy agreed with him!!

I suggest it is you who needs to become better informed on this topic, rather than buzzer or myself.

[TNTNT]

I am sure there is at least one Republican election law lawyer in Hawaii who was and is familiar with the statutes, if for nothing else to make sure our candidate are properly submitted to the state. The election challenge statutes all have a short window time frame to file the challenge. IIRC, the issue first became public in June,2008, and Obama was not nominated until August so there was time under the statutory scheme to file a challenge. Well we can't cry over spilled milk. Good luck in 2012, and don't forget most, if not all states have these statutes.

[TNTNT]

Yes, there are probably 50 different standards, although I have not researched all states. We really don't want a national standard because that will require a Constitutional amendment since the Presidential election method is in the Constitution. Once that can of worms is opened, I guarantee you the dumbocrats will try to do away with the electoral college and replace with a direct, popular election, which would be a disaster.