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The Great College-Degree Scam (the current problem of employability is not a new problem)
Pajamas Media ^ | 12/10/2010 | Pajamas Media

Posted on 12/20/2010 8:56:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

The cost of college has gotten out of control. $160,000 or more for four years will bankrupt most students and/or parents. I think the point of the article is “Is it worth it?” Bill Gates didn’t have a degree.


81 posted on 12/20/2010 11:42:47 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff
I think the point of the article is “Is it worth it?” Bill Gates didn’t have a degree.

EXACTLY! My mother graduated from the 6th grade! Then after my GrandFather passed, my GrandMother had to go get a job to take care of seven kids. My mother was the oldest, so she dropped out of school to take care of her siblings. She got married at fourteen (remember these were the olden days).

She helped build two companies to be multi-million dollar firms - on a SIXTH GRADE EDUCATION - and lots of reading and life experience!
82 posted on 12/20/2010 11:50:19 AM PST by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: marron

When you are told that you need a college education to get a good job. Then you go through all the worthless hoops to get one only to stand in the unemployment line while the highschool drop out has a house and good job. Why not be upset?
Having taught at a university was also disappointing. The students in the department I worked in had trouble getting jobs after graduation because the industry had moved to China. During a department planning retreat, enrollment was brought up. I suggested that it was unethical to promise a job using your degree when we knew there were no jobs out there. The state of denial that I received was distrubing.


83 posted on 12/20/2010 12:07:47 PM PST by jimfr
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To: napscoordinator
Getting an education is a good thing.

Yes. But people also have to find a means of employment. Employment today requires credentials and you can spend your credentialing time getting a high value credential or "getting an education". Understandably many people choose the former over the latter. Unless they're coming into a trust fund after school or their family is loaded.

84 posted on 12/20/2010 12:15:04 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: marron
You will find an opening and plan to work your way up as you learn the ropes and prove yourself worthy.

That's not how it works today. Prerequisites for most middle class jobs require specific college degrees. Even a lot of working class jobs require some professional licensing or certifications. People don't get hired on a wink and a smile today unless you know people.

85 posted on 12/20/2010 12:18:03 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: 70th Division

RE: My son is a new doc. He is 170K in debt with nothing special in outlays other than room board and books. And I paid for his undergrad.


Well, doctors make good money. He should be able to pay it back in say, 5 years with the salary he’ll make.


86 posted on 12/20/2010 1:12:07 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Vermont Lt

Many years ago I graduated from a famous school in the kind of town you describe, with classmates of the sort your daughter had. And like her I did not want to go to college. I had already started as a small business while I was a teenager, and it would not do well if I delayed to pursue a college degree. In this case a college degree wouldn’t have been in my best interests. So I ran my business for several years.

Unfortunately after several years a health problem made it impossible for me to pursue the business, so I went to a university for undergraduate and graduate school. Put myself through. It does improve the character to do it yourself, but it was hard—I ended up in the hospital quite a bit.

Nowadays it’s pretty tough to do what I did. My daughter, who is just getting ready to graduate, works like a crazy person and went to the least-expensive state university she could find. Nonetheless, she’s going to have some debts.


87 posted on 12/20/2010 1:40:30 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ExTxMarine
because they have the experience to go WITH the knowledge!

Never said you needed a mechanical engineering degree to be a diesel mechanic but you sure aren't going to design diesel engine with a mechanic's greasy hands.

88 posted on 12/20/2010 5:17:08 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Vermont Lt

Great response and more parents need to look at a plan like your daughter did.


89 posted on 12/24/2010 6:23:30 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Oberon

In state tuition at the Univ of AZ is now running about $600/credit. A 5 credit math class is thus $3000. Pima Community College runs $268 for the same math class.

Of course, the UofA offers more classes, but I have to wonder why they feel the need to charge 10 times as much. Even a correspondence course from the UofA runs about $600/credit, while the cost to the school is almost nothing.

Why pay it, and why do I pay huge taxes to support schools that then charge outrageous prices? The community college I understand, but the 4 year University? Insane.


90 posted on 12/24/2010 6:34:38 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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