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Lakin Guilty As Charged - Obama Hides - Truth Eludes Us
Here's The Right Side Of It ^ | December 16, 2010 | John L. Work

Posted on 12/16/2010 7:00:55 AM PST by JLWORK

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To: Non-Sequitur
Lakin had the duty to obey the lawful orders of his superior officers and to report for duty to a unit headed for Afghanistan.

An illiegitimate CinC = an illegitimate chain of command. The orders are technically not lawful. This is on Obama. Period.

81 posted on 12/19/2010 12:08:46 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919
An illiegitimate CinC = an illegitimate chain of command. The orders are technically not lawful.

In your opinion.

82 posted on 12/19/2010 3:38:11 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I was commenting from the general point of view of the Blackstone of Military Law, William Wintrhop, who said the President is the original source and authority for military regulations. Just stands to reason that a CinC with compromised authority compromises the chain of command.


83 posted on 12/19/2010 4:45:15 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919
I was commenting from the general point of view of the Blackstone of Military Law, William Wintrhop, who said the President is the original source and authority for military regulations.

If one does not read the Constitution one might come to that conclusion based on the President being CinC. If one reads the Constitution, specifically Article I, Section 8, then it's clear that that conclusion is wrong. Congress is the source and the authority for military regulations and military law.

84 posted on 12/20/2010 3:35:34 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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If one does not read the Constitution one might come to that conclusion based on the President being CinC. If one reads the Constitution, specifically Article I, Section 8, then it's clear that that conclusion is wrong. Congress is the source and the authority for military regulations and military law.

Winthrop addresses this in distinguishing between the constitutional functions of Congress and the President.

"The word "regulation" or "regulations," (as also the allied term "rules,") is employed sometimes in the Constitution as descriptive of statute law, and this use has proved confusing to the student. A similar designation occurs in certain, especially of the earlier public Acts, though it is not frequent. As a general practice, Congress, in framing a public law in which provision is made for an elaborated system, a measure of policy, or other extended subject or project, of which the execution involves minor details of performance, disposes of such details in one of three forms. It either goes on itself to prescribe rules, general or specific, for such performance; or it authorizes some public oficer to make proper rules for the purpose; or it is entirely silent on the subject, prescribing no regulations itself and devolving no authority, in terms, upon any official."

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"The Constitution devolves it upon the executive department to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." In a case, therefore, of a law of which the execution requires to be specifically methodized, it is the duty of that department, and it is authorized, in the absence of any express authority for the purpose, to prescribe the rules or directions necessary and proper to effectuate the object of the statute; care of course being taken that the regulations shall not partake of the nature of legislation. This inherent authority of the Executive -the President, or head of a Department acting for and representing him - has been repeatedly noticed and affirmed by the authorities."

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"The authority for army regulations proper is to be sought primarily in the distinctive functions of the president as Commander-in-chief and as Executive."

Link to Wintrhop's manual on Military Law


85 posted on 12/20/2010 7:52:21 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

Still beating a dead horse?


86 posted on 12/20/2010 8:03:31 AM PST by verity
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Still beating a dead horse?

That's not a nice way to refer to other posters.

87 posted on 12/20/2010 8:09:46 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

I acknowledge the cleverness of your response; however.............


88 posted on 12/20/2010 8:33:48 AM PST by verity
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I acknowledge the cleverness of your response; however.............

... yet you can't come up with anything better nor have you offered anything of substance in response to the post I made about the authority of the president. Are you waiting on an epiphany or someone else to jump in at your defense??

89 posted on 12/20/2010 8:49:27 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

Lakin was tried and convicted. How is that for substance?


90 posted on 12/20/2010 1:49:07 PM PST by verity
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Lakin was tried and convicted. How is that for substance?

Weak. It doesn't address the points of discussion.

91 posted on 12/20/2010 2:14:51 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

Moot.


92 posted on 12/20/2010 2:27:16 PM PST by verity
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