Posted on 10/31/2010 8:37:49 PM PDT by Copernicus
There is much more research available now than there was at the time.
Best regards to all,
John Jacob can stick it in his ear. The wuss can NOT participate, just like the little atheist and marxists.
I usually don’t comment on the various pledge threads, and the point of this piece is why. Thanks for posting it.
I don’t say it, and here’s why:
“...the original pledge was written by avowed Socialist Francis Bellamy at the dawn of the mighty Public Education Edifice and designed to brainwash young minds into total submission to all powerful government.”
That is the point of the commentary.
Best regards,
The last one in which I participated (years ago)made many of the same points about the Bellamy Brothers.
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Then don’t worry your little head, and remain seated like the marxists and socialists and atheists.
Marxists, socialists and atheists SUPPORT THE PLEDGE.
Patriots OPPOSE IT.
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YOU LIE!
Wrong, but the author is certainly entitled to his rank stupidity.
I certainly would not wish to be mislead by authors of rank stupidity.
The strongest pledge we can make is to remember our roots and the greatness of the founding father's vision of limited government, as we DON'T act like sheep by group-pressurized recitation of "avowed Socialist Francis Bellamy's" [Darkwolf377] rather young little poem.
However, my respectful silence has nothing to do with the "under God" phrase, because I do think this country was originated under and operates under God.
And (I think, like you) I LIKE spontaneous demonstrations against stupid and illegal restrictions, so I probably would have at least pretended I was saying "The Pledge" myself by making noises of agreement in those recent "revolutionary" settings in which We the People spontaneously said whatever we wanted.
It pisses off the "progressives," the anarchists, the 'Rats, the Commies, the Perverts...
What's there not to like?
: )
But honestly, I can never quite tell what will touch a nerve with the general crowd.
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(ahh...good point)
That is the weird part.
If it was constructed to advance their master plan why would they disavow it unless it is counter-counter ops to get us all to avidly embrace it?
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Don’t know much about that blog, and there is too much to read and do right now to get into it much. I might or might not like it but I am not going to check it out. I did not read it before making my comment. (Usually I do read the articles first but for some reason I thought it was a vanity.)
However, it does bother me that some confused people think that “the pledge” (of recent and suspect origins) has the same standing for us as “The Declaration” and “The Constitution” (of ancient (by American standards) and blessed origins).
“The Declaration” = ORTHODOX AMERICANISM (canonical)
“The Constitution” = ORTHODOX AMERICANISM (canonical)
“the pledge” = warm fuzzies from somewhat out of touch newbies, and to “comply” with “pledging” such things is like going back to “God save the King”
It is good to know where things originated and how we got to where we are today.
I have to say that no matter what the author intended the pledge is not in any way socialist to me. I grew up saying it every morning at school like most posters here and to me it was simply a sign of reverence for the country. Regardless of its original meaning I see it as a reminder that that we are in the greatest country in the world and that we’re lucky and blessed to be here. Even if the author was a socialist or Marxist I believe that meaning has been lost. I am conservative and I will show my allegiance through conservative efforts, not socialist ones.
I’m not going to stop reciting it just to give the finger to some deceased socialist jerk. He’s dead. Long dead. May his socialist dreams join him someday.
There’ve been a few now and then, I seem to recall two or three over the subject of this article, the spontaneous saying of the pledge at events where the chair doesn’t start it.
To each his own— I do say it and I do so knowing its’ origins
as a means to declare such has no power over me.I say it because I believe in the principles that “piece of cloth referred to “ represent. My participation in no way is to be construed as having any more meaning or association to the
costume and Trick or Treat I allow the grandkids take part in
to the origins of that once Americanized holiday.Same with
Easter.SO I say the pledge but harm none who do not.
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