Posted on 10/11/2010 7:21:59 AM PDT by thesearethetimes...
You made a link to the blog easy enough, why would it have been so hard to skip that and just link to the FDA site in the first place???
Thanks for the ping, but since only muawiyah’s initial post #8 was to me, and upon reading it I made the decision that if she(?) believed that God wanted government to manage a raw cheese dairy, there was not going to be much I could offer to change her mind : /
No worries though, as it’s clear that Cynical Bear is up for it ; )
>> Actually the Israelites were instructed to form a government to hear various cases and the Levites were given the responsibility of carrying out God’s kosher food laws, from the book of Leviticus,<<
The entire society of the Israelites was a religious society not a secular society. The organization of the Israelites was within the twelve tribes. The comparison of today’s government in the US is absurd. It would be like comparing the Israelites under the rule of the Egyptians.
>> No worries though, as it’s clear that Cynical Bear is up for it ; )<<
It would appear to me that Netizen has confused the US government with a theocracy.
So, you think laws against theft, or murder are religious in nature and not civil? Interesting.
Because I was not sure WHERE on the FDA site it was!
Good grief folks. I understand a healthy dose of skepticism, but honestly, I received the link this morning, on a whole foods list. Are there some hippy dippy types on it, you bet, but mostly it is populated by guess what, plain old hard working folks, SMALL FARMERS and the people, (like me) who simply prefer their food as minimally processed as possible. What can I say, it is fast becoming a crime to want such a thing.
I posted it, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A BLOG, because there were MANY links to articles that filled in the back story, AND more importantly there was a link to an FDA court brief that is unbelievably scary in it’s scope.
This is about both health and FREEDOM.
I value both.
May God bless and keep us all.
Tatt
Sorry CharlesWayneCT, I meant to add you to the ping, but got so caught up in my reply that it slipped my pointy little brain. Please see my post at 66.
FReeregards,
Tatt
So, yeah, where the Bible has God directing that various things be done the Levites, for example, He is assigning them to the Gub'mnt!
The Hebrews are portrayed in the Bible as living under a THEOCRACY.
Eventually that changed and God ordained kings. Then they had to pay real taxes!
Here’s some totalitarian control over smallpox vaccination ~ you can’t get one these days ~ just isn’t allowed!
That’s often suspected of that crowd. Without modern science most of the world’s food simply wouldn’t exist and there’d be billions suffering the worst sort of malnutrition, or even starvation.
>>So, you think laws against theft, or murder are religious in nature and not civil? Interesting.<<
One would have to look to their origins I would think. Surely you can tell me the origins of “thou shalt not kill” and “thou shalt not steal”.
The government of the US is NOT a Theocracy as was the “government” of the Israelites.
If you propose that we institute a Theocracy with Yahweh as it’s God under New Testament guidelines we may have something in common. If that can not be accomplished, I would suggest that government should stay out of controlling anything of a religious nature.
If you will remember. God did not tell Moses to influence the Egyptian government to conform to or implement Israeli law.
>> Eventually that changed and God ordained kings. Then they had to pay real taxes! <<
He did ordain leadership but it was still theocratic.
You don’t have to apologize. You linked to the blog, and provided an excerpt. All you needed to do was choose your excerpt so it contained the links you wanted us to follow, and/or in your own comments provide the links from which you got the information you put in the comments.
This isn’t a performance evaluation, we don’t grade you. This is about helping you to provide better service to your fellow freepers, and keeping you from getting frustrated and snippy with people who don’t have the time to both read the full article you posted AND also follow all the links from the article and read all them, just to figure out what you thought was important.
Most householders are simply not prepared to test for these things.
Also, I wonder if they really meant to imply that they want to eat food that is still alive.
It would appear to me that you don't know your bible as well as you thought you did.
Those Commandments were given on two tablets. The First Tablet of the Law contained the commandments and obligations given to man concerning maintaining his relationship with God. In other words these commandments were "vertical"; between man and God. These commandments in the First Tablet of the Law dealt with man's relationship with God and when obeyed guaranteed man's continued acceptance with God. These would be the ones you consider RELIGIOUS or ceremonial.
The Second Tablet of the Law contained the commandments and obligations given to man concerning man's relationship with man. These are CIVIL or moral laws.
There were officers of state who worked outside the bounds of the Temple ~ and yet other occupations with which to be concerned.
Progress does that. I remember when the word "computer" had its very definition changed from "a person who does computations" to "a machine that does computations". By the time Solomon came along there were some serious economic and scientific currents afoot in the world. China was rising. Coal was burned. Greeks were getting ready to invent steam! Steel was within sight.
The old system of assigning important economic tasks to castes and tribes was OVER ~ in many fields.
At some point it would certainly be in the interest of any aliens in our end of the galaxy to throttle down our progress.
For you my good FRiend Netizen -
http://www.ftcldf.org/docs/ps%20opp%202%20fdas%20mtd%20final%20as%20filed%20exh%20c.pdf
It is NOT from the FDA site, which I just spent 20 minutes on and got nada, but it is from the Food to Consumer Legal Defense Fund which is legit.
Real honest to goodness seemingly normal Americans like myself ; } have contributed to this organization in order to assist small farmers who have been targeted by the United States government for selling their products to citizens who purchase them in full awareness of the inherent risks.
While the brief is not communicating goals or ideals that I want to hear from my government, I am glad that my small contribution has borne such surprisingly honest fruit.
Tatt
>> These are CIVIL or moral laws.<<
Given by whom exactly?
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