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Retired JAG Officer:Judge’s Ruling Against Discovery for Lakin Could Derail Case
Greeley Gazette ^ | 9-10-10 | Jack Minor

Posted on 09/14/2010 1:00:58 AM PDT by STARWISE

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The left continues to insist that the computer-generated online image of the certification of live birth, along with two newspaper announcements, are the be-all end-all that settles the argument. The problem is those things do not establish that he is a natural-born American citizen. Assuming the certificate is legitimate, it is the same one that Hawaii has issued to babies born outside of the United States, plus that is not acceptable proof in place of a long-form birth certificate that contains much more information than the computer image certificate contains. We can’t even find out in which Hawaiian hospital he was even born. There have also been reports that he actually obtained citizenship in Indonesia.

1 posted on 09/14/2010 1:01:02 AM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...

~~ Ping!


2 posted on 09/14/2010 1:01:51 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping!


3 posted on 09/14/2010 1:10:01 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: STARWISE

I don’t get it.


4 posted on 09/14/2010 1:10:47 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: All

FYI

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LTC Lakin sitrep
September 13, 2010

This is the 10th day that APF (safeguardourconstitution), LTC Lakin’s support site, has failed to post the military judge’s findings and conclusions, and advertises as “Breaking News,” “Judge to Rules (sic) . . ..”

The APF website does not list or encourage attendance as the previously scheduled Article 39(a), UCMJ, session for tomorrow.

The 10 September 2010 docket for the First Judicial Circuit (Judge Lind’s circuit) does not show a hearing scheduled in LTC Lakin’s case for tomorrow.

A motions sessions for 28 September 2010 is the next listed event, location TBA.

Trial is still scheduled for 13 October, for three days, location TBA.

http://court-martial-ucmj.com/lakin-2/ltc-lakin-sitrep-3/


5 posted on 09/14/2010 1:13:29 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: onyx

The article was very poorly written .. but I think he’s claiming that there is a military case precedent, which is contrary to what the military judge ruled for Ltc Lakin.

Guess we’ll have to wait to see things further unfold.


6 posted on 09/14/2010 1:16:26 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: onyx

And what are we doing up so late ? LOL
(I took a nap this afternoon .. drats)


7 posted on 09/14/2010 1:19:56 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Me too. This evening. Worse.


8 posted on 09/14/2010 1:21:49 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: STARWISE
The left continues to insist that the computer-generated online image of the certification of live birth, along with two newspaper announcements, are the be-all end-all that settles the argument. The problem is those things do not establish that he is a natural-born American citizen.

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The smoking gun is the feeble effort to 'bamboozle' America with the phony birth document (Certification of Live Birth) he put up on his web site. That should have brought an FBI visit for forging a birth certificate.

The Certification of Live Birth form is not definitive.

He and his administration think Americans are idiots. They know that you are waiting for the piss-stream media to tell the truth but it ain't ever going to happen.

Clueless Obama-1sm

9 posted on 09/14/2010 1:23:36 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: STARWISE

That’s how I read it, too.
Very poorly written.
Thanks, STAR.


10 posted on 09/14/2010 1:24:14 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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Praying hard for LTC Lakin and a successful outcome to this trial.


11 posted on 09/14/2010 1:30:20 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: STARWISE

To me not much difference in a active member of military impersonating a officer or a President... you get in trouble if you can’t show prove of that rank.


12 posted on 09/14/2010 1:41:44 AM PDT by buggy02 (Never take life seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.)
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To: BobP

Interesting graphic .. ;)


13 posted on 09/14/2010 1:44:07 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Comment on military jag blog site

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Bob Cipperly 09.13.10 at 11:54

The following letter was sent to th Chairman, JCS alon with my letter to the Conveining Authority in the Lakin Court Martial. All my Congressional reps have also received the information concerning the Col. Lind rulings.

ADM Mullen:

Sir, This communication concerns the LTC Lakin Court Martial.

The attached letter was sent to the Convening Authority, MGEN. Carla Hawley-Bowland. When I sent the letter, I believed that the CA was independent of the Trial Judge (Col. Lind). If, what I have read on the web is true, and the CA and the Trial judge conspired to deny Col. Lakin his rights under the UCMJ, then both individuals need to be removed for cause. At the very least, these allegations should be investigated and the findings made public.

I can surmise that this situation may not be very high on your priority list, but, I can assure you it is being watched very closely by the military community both active and retired.

I also believe that both you and I took the same oath as did the individuals mentioned above, as did Col. Lakin. During my career, I had a couple of occasions to refuse illegal orders. Fortunately, the commands were rescinded when the illegality was pointed out. Col. Lakin is an honorable man who has had a distinguished career. His accusations have merit and should be adjudicated.

I hope you are as much a patriot as Col Lakin is and ensure that his rights are protected.

Respectfully,

Robert H. Cipperly, LCDR (USN Ret.)

I also sent all of the pertinent info to many areas of Fox News including Judge Napolitano of the Freedom Watch show.

http://court-martial-ucmj.com/lakin-2/ltc-lakin-sitrep-3/


14 posted on 09/14/2010 1:48:56 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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Judge Lind’s order

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37116443/United-States-v-LTC-Terry-Lakin-Ruling-on-Motions-Discovery-%E2%80%93-September-2-2010

See #6

http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/9n5xid5c5cnn1nh/images/7-5c9a289cf7/000.jpg


15 posted on 09/14/2010 1:55:00 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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The last Exec Order written deals with amendments to the UCMJ

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/pdf/2010-22279.pdf

Is this a coincidence ?


16 posted on 09/14/2010 2:03:52 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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“(I took a nap this afternoon .. drats)”

Coffee at 9pm for me. Dang.


17 posted on 09/14/2010 2:44:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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Supporters of the President have said there is no need for Obama to release any of the records requested because the online copy of the certification of live birth released during the campaign is sufficient proof. They also claim that the President is under no obligation to release them citing privacy laws.

THE WHOLE DEFENSE OF OBAMA:

Barack: You asked me if I was a Natural born citizen.

I put out on a DNC FUNDED WEBSITE a CertifiCATION of Live birth (NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE THAT LISTS MY HOSPITAL OF BIRTH OR NAME OF HOSPITAL.) What's the problem? I don't get it? What do these people want, "I released my "birth certificate!" OK, so it doesn't list what hospital I was born in, what's the big deal?"

MEDIA & IGNORANT PUBLIC RESPONSE: Oh, OK sounds good to me.

PATRIOTS RESPONSE: Could we see the alleged LEGAL DOCUMENT from the State of Hawaii that shows your birth record?

18 posted on 09/14/2010 3:35:41 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: STARWISE

no it is not a coincidence. CYA


19 posted on 09/14/2010 3:41:12 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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Is this a coincidence ?

Heh heh...you're funny early in the morning, STARWISE.

Thanks for the ping.

20 posted on 09/14/2010 3:47:33 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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