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B-1 carries record-setting missile load
U.S. Air Force ^ | September 10, 2010 | Tech. Sgt. Robert Wollenberg

Posted on 09/10/2010 8:03:25 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Thousand ship WWII style raids are as useless today as
thousands of men in line with muskets Civil War style.

Masses of airplanes cannot live in todays skies against modern weapons. This Bone can now take down any target
that needs taking down and get home alive. Lots of engineers and techs worked hard to get the platform qualed
for this load, its no small achievement.


21 posted on 09/10/2010 8:43:05 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I see they still haven’t figured out how to use the forward weapons bay on the B-1. The picture shows the JSSAM coming out of the mid weapons bay. When the B-1B was first nuke certified the forward weapons bay was problematic for the CSRL’s to release the gravity weapons. Almost all of the time the forward weapons bay contained an extra fuel tank instead of weapons.

Back in 1987 one of those sprang a catastrophic leak while it was sitting on the tarmac at Dyess. JP-4 was running ankle deep. Leaked into a stream that my BEE guys had to monitor.


22 posted on 09/10/2010 8:48:35 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("CJ, if we're ever ordered to storm your house, I'm calling in sick." Local SWAT team member.)
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To: patton

Don’t pick on the second largest para-military organization in the world!


23 posted on 09/10/2010 8:53:22 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: Redleg Duke

The boy scouts?


24 posted on 09/10/2010 8:57:11 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: mazda77
Imagine 5 or 6 of these being deployed in a cascading sequence at the same target point.

One can always dream....  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--> mecca <--

25 posted on 09/10/2010 8:57:42 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: patton

you’re bad


26 posted on 09/10/2010 8:58:36 AM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
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To: patton

Yep! The USAF has the planes and the BSA has the Adult Leadership!


27 posted on 09/10/2010 8:59:16 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: Redleg Duke; smokingfrog

What do you call an O-6 in the AF?

“Bob”.


28 posted on 09/10/2010 9:03:30 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This is the plane Jimmy Carter didn’t want built.


29 posted on 09/10/2010 9:03:47 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: RexBeach; sukhoi-30mki
This means, I reckon, that a squadron of B-1B Lancers, similarly armed, could ruin a pretty large target?

Well, it depends on your “large” target more than anything else:

Consider a railroad bridge over a river: you MUST hit a 10 foot wide, 200 foot long target exactly, but you only need to hit it once to cut the train traffic off completely. You could drop 200 or 300 bombs, but if they miss, you have failed.

A two-lane road bridge might only be 20 feet wide, but the trucks can easily drive around a single hole in one lane - so three, four, or five hits might be needed to cut traffic off, or one big bomb in the right place that drops the bridge completely. Even so, the next day's trucks might be able to drive down and around through the creek bed avoiding the damaged bridge altogether.

But one very accurate bomb is useless against a oil storage tank farm, a train marshalling yard, a storage depot, a troop concentration, or a truck park: the target is too spread out to be affected by a limited number of bombs, regardless of how accurate and expensive they are. So two B-52’s dropping 80 bombs “large” area target is more effective than even one very, very large bomb dropped from one plane. And the “dumb” bombs are much more effective than 24 very, very expensive cruise missiles dropped off shore from a B-1.

But a armored and buried command center or a power plant turbine building might need a single, very heavy, very accurate bomb to break through and kill the target. Hundreds of “cheap” dumb bombs dropped from many planes are useless because they not only miss the target, but aren't big enough to damage it even if one lands exactly on top of the reinforced concrete.

Same thing with an airport. You only need a small bomb to kill a fighter or missile, but you must place that bomb or cruise missile exactly in the center of the revetment around the target. Miss by 50 feet after a 400 mile plane flight (put the bomb on the wrong side of the revetment or sandbag wall or concrete shelter), and the target isn't damaged at all. So dropping hundreds of bombs when most (if not almost all) will miss the runway and enemy airplanes is useless. Specifically aiming a single small bomb - like from a F-117 or F-21 or F-35 stealth plane - is better than a large scale Vietnam era “alpha strike” with dozens of planes.

Balance all of the above against the "time" it takes to program many different "smart" cruise missile attacks in many different places by your targetting crew mission planners.

The military are always time-limited and intelligence limited: if the target can move you might be more effective striking quickly with "something" (any kind of weapon from any kind of platform)rather than waiting 48 hours and trying to hit it where it used to be with the perfect weapon platform after the perfect pre-launch planning and perfect pre-launch flight brief from a perfectly rested flight crew flying a perfectly prepared aircraft from a perfectly maintained plane flying from a perfectly clean hanger. That is a 20 hour flight time from the target.

30 posted on 09/10/2010 9:23:48 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: txrangerette
Kudos to you for posting this, from the home of the B-1

Small world. I grew up in Tye, within sight of the Dyess flight line! My dad was stationed there. Of course, it was BUF's back then. (B-52's)

31 posted on 09/10/2010 9:31:20 AM PDT by Huebolt (It ain't over till there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Balance all of the above against the "time" it takes to program many different "smart" cruise missile attacks in many different places by your targetting crew mission planners.

These days they just send up the plane to fly around all day. Teams on the ground can radio for air strikes and have GPS accurate bombs hitting the target in minutes. They 'program' them on the fly with a datalink.

But one very accurate bomb is useless against a oil storage tank farm, a train marshalling yard, a storage depot, a troop concentration, or a truck park: the target is too spread out to be affected by a limited number of bombs, regardless of how accurate and expensive they are.

It makes a lot more sense when hitting a tank farm to put one or two accurate bombs into each tank and a couple into a few primary pumping stations. Compared to carpet bombing the area it is far more effective.

The weapon in the article is for stand-off. If you want to just get more accuracy in a more cost-effective way you get JDAMs. Slap a GPS and movable fins on a whole load of formerly dumb bombs and then program them for whatever pattern you want. The B-1 can hold about as many dumb bombs as it can guided ones, depending on what type of guided ones they are.
32 posted on 09/10/2010 9:42:00 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

True.


33 posted on 09/10/2010 9:59:18 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Very cool. I worked on B-1B test systems many years ago so this was an enjoyable read.


34 posted on 09/10/2010 3:36:29 PM PDT by vrwc1
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To: vrwc1

My brother is the supervisor of one of the avionics maintenance groups at Tinker for these things. I have seen them up close and personal. Beautiful piece of work. It’s amazing that we’ve been able to extend their life as long as we have. I think they stopped making them in 1988, this after the first unit flew in 1974.

I’ve read that the military can continue to upgrade and maintain the fleet into 2038. That says a lot for the design of this airplane.


35 posted on 09/10/2010 4:02:44 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Huebolt

B-52, Carswell AFB, Fort Worth native and West Texas transplant greetings to you, from the home of the B-1.


36 posted on 09/10/2010 8:23:33 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: Destroyer Sailor
To all or radical Muslim friends take note of this and quake in fear. It has been nine years since the 9/11 attacks. Never forget, never forgive the War continues.

"It is usual with Romans to pay their debts, not in gold, but in iron." - Camillus
37 posted on 09/10/2010 8:27:31 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (God bless America; God d**n Jeremiah Wright)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
May I request that load be deposited on these coordinates tomorrow?

Lat 21° 25' 30" N., long. 39° 49' 22" E.

Thank you.

5.56mm

38 posted on 09/10/2010 8:36:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: sukhoi-30mki
How long does it take for one mission to deliver 24 weapons?

How many weapons can be delivered by cyclic airops from one aircraft carrier in that same time period?

39 posted on 09/11/2010 7:06:22 AM PDT by CPOSharky (They ain't "illegals." They are just unregistered democrats.)
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To: CPOSharky

Depends on where you launch your aircraft from-the JASSM is a subsonic weapon.


40 posted on 09/11/2010 8:16:15 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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