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Summary Of One Person’s (my) Opinion of the Gay Marriage Controversy
Flopping Aces ^ | 08-26-10 | Larry Weisenthal

Posted on 08/26/2010 8:31:44 AM PDT by Starman417

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1 posted on 08/26/2010 8:31:46 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
Granting same sex couples equal rights and protections under the law, and applying a term other than “marriage” to same sex unions would best serve the needs of the individuals (and their rights, under the Constitution) and the equally compelling interests of society.

To propose such an alternative is to profess ignorance of the motives of the pro-gay marraige forces.

They don't want fair. They want us to bless their lifestyle by saying there is NO difference between their's and our's.

And even then they won't be satisfied.

2 posted on 08/26/2010 8:39:09 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
You've got it partially right.

The real motive is the complete destruction of the institution of marriage. This then completes the leftists' attack on this institution. The lefties had to get rid of the structure of the American family because it stood in the way of people being dependent on the government. "Gay marriage" is the last nail in the coffin. If marriage can mean ANY type of coupling, then it means nothing at all. And, that is the point.

3 posted on 08/26/2010 8:46:03 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Starman417

Check my post #3 for a more on this; but, I have to say that in CA, gays already had a “civil union” law that gave them EVERY advantage that married couples had; but, it wasn’t enough.


4 posted on 08/26/2010 8:47:31 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Starman417; little jeremiah; wagglebee
Although the 3% which is gay deserves reasonable accommodation in the interests of non-discrimination and equal protection

Since when is it discrimination to deny special rights for aberrant behavior?

“A study to be released next month is offering a rare glimpse inside gay relationships and reveals that monogamy is not a central feature for many. Some gay men and lesbians argue that, as a result, they have stronger, longer-lasting and more honest relationships.

Hence the virulent spread of disease among homosexuals. What is honorable in that that they should get special rights? The very behavior that they want recognized kills them.

And while that may sound counterintuitive, some experts say boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution.

Destroying the basis for marriage will save it? Are people in this country REALLY that stupid?

5 posted on 08/26/2010 8:47:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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6 posted on 08/26/2010 8:51:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Starman417

Perhaps Germany really does need lebensraum. If we let them go ahead and keep Czechoslovakia, they’ll probably be satisfied.

/stoopid


7 posted on 08/26/2010 8:51:55 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Starman417

Maybe I’m going to get flamed for this, but I think once Republicans are back in power they should propose a constitutional amendment that permits any 2 people to marry but also outlaws abortion. That will at least provide 50-60 years of safeguards for the unborn until activist judges have constructed enough precedents to render it useless. Also, in all honesty, I think it’s just going to be a matter of 20-30 years before most states allow gay marriage anyway (just looking at trends), so we might as well try to get something out of it.

I can live with gay people marrying each other (they can answer for their actions when they are judged) if it ends the slaughter. And, I know there would be plenty of legal ripple effects to consider with this (religious groups and adoption, namely). Realistically, since killing babies in utero is a sacrament of the left, I suspect that would never fly anyway, but maybe it would serve to chip away at some of the gay ‘Rat voter base. Just an idea.


8 posted on 08/26/2010 8:55:35 AM PDT by cartervt2k
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To: Starman417

As a preface, I am a Catholic and married almost 50 years; however, I believe banning someone over the legal age to get a marriage license is discriminatory and unconstitutional. Let them get the marriage license and then try to find a priest, rabbi, minister, imam (or whoever marries the Islamists)to bless their marriage. Chances are they will only find a left-leaning judge. I also think this has to be on a national level and not state by state, so when they get ready to divorce, any state could provide that.


9 posted on 08/26/2010 8:56:31 AM PDT by mimi from mi
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To: cartervt2k

That’s surrendering to immorality and it’s unacceptable. You don’t give special rights to someone based on deviant behavior.


10 posted on 08/26/2010 8:57:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: LearsFool

A judge in MA ruled that since Gay Marriage was now legal, that all laws in regards to Parental Notification in regards to Gay Sex being introduced to school curriculum were now vacated. In other words, Gay Marriage is the vehicle by which sex advocates gained access to other people’s children. These sex advocates do not have to undergo criminal background checks to gain access to schools.


11 posted on 08/26/2010 8:58:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Starman417
My opinion of "gay marriage" matches that expressed by Abraham Lincoln:

"If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog? Five? No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg." - Abraham Lincoln.

12 posted on 08/26/2010 8:58:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: mimi from mi
I believe banning someone over the legal age to get a marriage license is discriminatory and unconstitutional.

Since when is deviant behavior a right under the Constitution? At the beginning of our country, states had laws against it. Virginias law had the death penalty. And you wanna try to say deviant behavior is a Constitutional right?!

13 posted on 08/26/2010 9:00:49 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Starman417

Gay and straight marriage can never be the same.

There’s only one arrangement where the fun parts both fit and function.

And all the shouting in the world won’t change it.


14 posted on 08/26/2010 9:04:32 AM PDT by lurk
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To: DJ MacWoW

Not all moral decisions carry the same weight. In war, we accept that we will accidentally kill innocents in the process of killing tyrants, to give one example. Do you object to that?

Is it worse to terminate a baby’s life or to give some meaningless government recognition to 2 gay people? I don’t like either, but there is no moral equivalency here.


15 posted on 08/26/2010 9:04:56 AM PDT by cartervt2k
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To: massgopguy
There was a story recently about a rally interrupted by sodomites, one of whom was caught on video threatening, "You better watch that kid or we're gonna kidnap him!"

In MA he wouldn't even have to resort to kidnapping. The state - and far too many parents! - would hand the child over to him for his pleasure.

Parents could, for a while, be excused by their ignorance. Now that news of schools' mental/emotional/spiritual/physical abuse of children has been broadcast far and wide, parents are no longer excused. Now they are accessories.
16 posted on 08/26/2010 9:09:38 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Starman417
I say use the lefties tactics against them.

Call the male practitioners of homo eroticism “lesbians”, and the female practitioners “gay”. When they try to correct you, tell them that it's all the same to you. When they tell you that it is not the same, that it is very different, and the different names are used to denote those differences, you spring the trap.

Then why should we call a union between homoerotic couples “marriage”. It's not the same, it's very different, and it should have a different name to denote those differences.

17 posted on 08/26/2010 9:14:37 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: cartervt2k
Is it worse to terminate a baby’s life or to give some meaningless government recognition to 2 gay people?

Again, that is surrender to immorality. Conservatives fight BOTH. Government should not legitimize ANY form of deviancy.

18 posted on 08/26/2010 9:16:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Since when is deviant behavior a right under the Constitution? At the beginning of our country, states had laws against it. Virginias law had the death penalty.

Well, the perversexuals do have the right to trial by jury. They have the right to face their accusers. They have the right not to be deprived of life or liberty without due process of law. They have the right not to be compelled to give testimony against themselves.

They have forfeited many of the rights and freedoms enjoyed by normosexuals.
19 posted on 08/26/2010 9:17:25 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

They also have the same right to marry. They can marry anyone of the opposite sex. They instead choose to demand special rights for deviancy.


20 posted on 08/26/2010 9:20:56 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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