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Poll: If Obama Imposes the U.N. Gun Ban On America... (55% choose Revolution)
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| June 12, 2010
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Posted on 07/20/2010 7:36:49 AM PDT by DTogo
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To: 556x45
funny thing is, those pissed off dems are so reactionary that theyd lynch em all, well before a conservative got to em...
maybe thats our best course of action, let em kill each other, then we just pick off the survivors...??? 8^}
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posted on
07/20/2010 8:49:10 PM PDT
by
Gilbo_3
(Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
To: pieceofthepuzzle
You might want to start now while you can.
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posted on
07/21/2010 3:05:19 AM PDT
by
Mayhem
To: Seruzawa
Er, yes, Obama can just enforce a UN gun ban with the stroke of a pen. He's arrogant enough to try.
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posted on
07/21/2010 10:25:29 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: DTogo
Article VI, read it and stand corrected. Treaties do not ammend the Constitution. Here is the relevant part of Art. 6. Only those who are grammatically challenged believe that it says they can.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The phrase " any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." means (the Constitution or Laws of any State) not (the Constitution) or (Laws of any State).
It's just saying that the Constitution, which is referred to as "this Constitution" everywhere within itself when the federal Constitution is meant, except in specifying the Presidential Oath, and that says "the Constitution of the United States", is supreme over state constitutions and state laws. Treaties are also supreme over them.
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posted on
07/21/2010 10:37:11 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: no-s
Should the troubles come to pass, you'll be prepared to defend your opinions
And it they don't, shooting is still a lot of fun. So get armed, trained, and practiced.
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posted on
07/21/2010 10:39:21 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: Vendome
Using their contorted logic they would only need 2/3rds of the votes cast, not 2/3rds of the entire Senate.(Not Constitutional Actually, it is.
From Art. 2 Section. 2.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur (where He, means the President).
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posted on
07/21/2010 10:44:59 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: Vendome
The best they might do is 62 but they would still fall short and I have my doubts about finding even 50 votes.50 would be enough if only 75 Senators were present. Could happen, O-dark thirty session they "forget" to tell the "nays" about. (it's 2/3 of those present,not 2/3 +1). Under Art. 1 Sec. 5 it requires a majority to be present or 51 Senators, present to constitute a quorum to do business, in which case as few as 34 votes would do it.
Of course there would be Hell to Pay, and I'd hope many here would be Collecting the payment.
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posted on
07/21/2010 10:52:57 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: Dayman
We do not seek to revolt. We seek a counter revolution. Explosives might be needed, but a nation of rifleman, or just a small fraction of a nation, would take the fight to the real enemies. See FReeper
Travis McGee's (Matt Braken) "Enemies" novels.
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posted on
07/21/2010 11:05:36 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: Dayman
Also see
Unintended Consequences, a novel by John Ross. It's probably a better illustration of the basic principle.
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posted on
07/21/2010 11:29:20 PM PDT
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: DTogo; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
70
posted on
07/22/2010 11:19:19 AM PDT
by
archy
(Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
To: DTogo; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ...
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:19:33 AM PDT
by
archy
(Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
To: archy
With the recent SCOTUS decisions, this would be a bridge too far. The blowback would be ugly.
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:28:25 AM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: DTogo
Implementing/imposing is one thing, enforcing is another.
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posted on
07/22/2010 11:40:53 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: MileHi
With the recent SCOTUS decisions, this would be a bridge too far. The blowback would be ugly. Indeed. Something similar happened in Finland when the Socialists in power there overreached in 1918.
It lasted for but four months, but after that bloodletting, the Finns had lost about 1% of their nation's population. In comparison, it took us over four years of our own civil warfare battling from 1861 to 1865 to manage around a 2% national casualty rate.
Of course in Finland, only about a fourth of those were what we'd call combat casualties. The rest froze or starved to death in prison camps, were summarily shot or hanged, or were bayonetted by previously unbloodied rookies to give them a little firsthand introduction to their new trade.
Our current population is around 330 million people. You can figure out for yourself what 1% of that would be.
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posted on
07/22/2010 12:09:35 PM PDT
by
archy
(Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
To: archy
Our current population is around 330 million people. You can figure out for yourself what 1% of that would be. Yes I can. A good chunk of the Dems base...
75
posted on
07/22/2010 12:24:23 PM PDT
by
MileHi
( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Obama: “ Senate? We no need no steenking Senate!!”
76
posted on
07/22/2010 12:40:55 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
To: El Gato
My hogs need feeding...
BTW, I need to buy some ammo off ya soon...Might need a few boxes of .45/70 too, if you have some...thats my fun gun...hehehe
77
posted on
07/22/2010 12:45:29 PM PDT
by
stevie_d_64
(I'm jus' sayin')
To: pieceofthepuzzle
A day late and a dollar short.
If you wait until then, you will be SOL!
78
posted on
07/22/2010 3:22:37 PM PDT
by
mamelukesabre
(Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
To: Vendome
They don’t need 2/3. They only need 2/3 of senators PRESENT at the time of the vote.
think about it.
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posted on
07/22/2010 3:26:40 PM PDT
by
mamelukesabre
(Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
To: mamelukesabre
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posted on
07/22/2010 3:31:22 PM PDT
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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