Posted on 07/04/2010 7:02:00 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier
Post of the day! :-)
This indicates there wasn't a forced hack of iTunes, but that some accounts were compromised through phishing, etc., just as the Skype, Amazon and XBox accounts were.
It’s been nearly 6 hours since the truth was posted blowing away any hope the FUDers had of proving Apple’s App store had been hacked and the sky had indeed fallen.
And not a peep. Not one “oh I guess we were wrong”. Not a single “Glad it was all OK”. Not even a “Drat, we’ll get you next time and your little dog too”.
Nothin’.
Silence.
Until of course tomorrow, when they post another NEW thread and start the day’s FUD all over again.
::::sigh::::
Apple Inc. removed an undisclosed number of applications from its popular App Store and acknowledged that a developer had engaged in fraudulent purchases
Yeah, which is Nothing at ALL like the original post or the 100 replies which all claimed the App Store was HACKED.
Ohhh Apple boogyman at last !!
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT !!
It was not hacked. Some jerk in Asia used stolen or phished accounts to run up his own ebook sales and got caught.
Dog bites man.
Cat stuck in tree.
Fire is hot.
If THIS is what passes for FUD these days, ya’ll are scrapin’ the bottom of an empty barrel on a dry day and not even getting splinters for the effort.
LOL
ummm stolen how? Phished how?
they were hacked
Your FUD claim is a DUD.
Are you just that bold or that stupid?
Some guy in Asia, bought some accounts where stupid people got tricked and didn’t know it, and used these accounts to artificially inflate his ebook sales.
THAT IS IT.
THAT IS ALL.
No Hack of the App store.
No mass panic.
NOTHING of what you have been claiming all day has panned up and you are STILL at it?
This was a moron who was so dumb he couldn’t even use these accounts to buy just a few hits on his ebooks, but tried to go for broke and popped up on the top 50 and got noticed.
As for the accounts, these were already compromised user accounts. Meaning, for those of you in Rio Linda, CA, that some users, who had previously and unrelated to this ebook idiot, had done something stupid and got phished or tricked or just plain had weak passwords, and had already been available on the black market of IDs, got used BY this fool to inflate his sales.
The end.
NOT WHAT YOU HOPED, CLAIMED OR PRAYED IT WOULD BE.
Go to bed, or find some other thing to sacrifice to your FUD god.
This one is MYTH BUSTED!
Interesting... Thanks! Also quite interesting that it took other developers selling in the App store to catch this guy; Apple apparently doesn’t care once an app is included in their garden.
Stupid eh? Guess we should all be so smart as you.
But I believe apple saying they don’t have a problem. Sure, they sure wouldn’t want to pay the penalties. I mean its not like they could make itunes secure or something. Or maybe realize that someone from Ohio shouldn’t be logging on from China to buy $600 in tunes.
Yeah cause nobody else has that kinda technology.
You are a dufus blinded by the cool aid.
Hey you missed this quote
“”We’re still in the Apple-can-do-no-wrong phase in consumers’ minds,” said Hapoalim Securities analyst Kevin Hunt.”
Hi Rachel,
First, it’s not nice to rant on about another person without copying them on it. You should talk to Swordmaker about that. I’m surprised he hasn’t chastised you about it yet, he certainly is quick to do so when I forget him...
As far as your INVULNERABLE claim, let me summarize:
- There has not been a virus “in the wild” for iOS or OSX
- Consumers don’t care about technical speak
- Therefore iOS and OSX are invulnerable
That about sum it up? It’s INVULNERABLE in the minds of their users, not in the real world, and thus it is really invulnerable?
Seems to be a rather convoluted - and highly misleading (some would say outright lying) - position to put forth. Basically you are invulnerable until you’re not.
Is that an accurate summary?
Then I guess I can claim that I am bullet-proof because I have not yet been perforated with a bullet.
Nice to see I did make my point.
Since you stopped making yours and just decided to make snarky and personal attacks instead.
But I am not going to let THAT misdirection pass either.
You are suggesting that a merchant has ANY say in matters of ID theft or over seas credit card fraud? You are ignorant at best and a despicable liar at the likeliest.
Here is how it works in truth:
It does not matter WHO you are... Apple or KFC. If someone buys something with your CC and you dispute it, that dispute BY LAW is between YOU and your BANK. The merchant cannot initiate it, study it, track it or predict it. BY LAW. This is why you CC on line is usually hashed into code, so that the merchant is not even TEMPTED to try to play middleman.
So to put ANY blame on Apple? Ludicrous. Beyond reasonable. Outlandish. Ignorant. Dishonest.
Take your pick.
But, the claim, that is the subject of this FUD, namely that the App Store was HACKED...
is BUSTED...
is FALSE...
is NOT TRUE....
is IN ERROR...
get it yet?
Of course you do... that’s why you stopped debating it 6 hours ago and now are just spewing vitriol.
I will NOT ping you Pug. As a point of honor. You are unworthy of a ping. And I do that intentionally, because you are reading this anyway.
You also know this, as I make it a point to say so proudly and frequently, so do not act as if I am suddenly speaking behind your back. I am addressing you, and you are aware of the address. I choose not to do so politely as you are beneath such dignity for your continued unabated lies and perversions.
But, being direct, as always, YES. You are bulletproof if you take my meaning and apply it to you usual deceptive tactics.
But NO, if you take it in CONTEXT. No, because we are NOT discussing ME being bullet proof.
Had I made such a claim, to be personally bullet proof, then YES, it would follow that you could claim the same standard.
But, see, YOU set the standard when you said “iPhone has just as many viruses as Droid.” Remember how this started?
I will remind you... frequently.
So, in THAT standard, where Droid has been SHOT many many many times and where the police advice all homeowners to wear bullet proof vests....
Yes... Apple IS bullet proof.
A going further NOT encumbered with the need for said bullet proof vests because of it.
So I can take you silly word games and STILL stay in context.
So, how’d you like them Apples?
Heck, I travel all the time (I’m in Thailand right now) and I have to call each and every credit card and bank I use to inform then when and where I will be, otherwise they lock me down.
And I also have to inform my clients (including Apple) when I travel overseas if I want to access CorpNet when out of the country, otherwise they lock me down.
I guess, though, that might be too much, or to flag a massive change in buying of apps (10 months of $5-$10 per month, then suddenly a spike of $500 in one day). And to leave those apps available for download for weeks after the activity has been flagged as fraudulent.
Here’s a hint: if you don’t make the disputed apps available for download, then people won’t buy stolen/cracked accounts to get the downloads. They’ll be out the money spent to get the apps in the first place, and that makes it a much less lucrative proposition all around. Don’t let the thieves keep what they stole, that’s kind of rule number one about fighting theft.
Reading the way Apple dealt with a few fellow FReepers in this thread, it definitely is something that has been on-going, and they need to step it up.
Three things with your weak closing, wherein you basically admit you were mistaken but do not use those words and instead try and find something critical in the way Apple SHOULD have handled this small issue.
First, as soon as they SAW it, they handled it. Even before the electrons had cooled on your many ranting posts.
Second, this end run as not an APP. It was a bunch of ebooks. Ebooks are actually new and perhaps you are right, an even TIGHTER set of controls may be needed for these as well.
But, then you just complained and advocated the 100% opposite of all your previous claims that Apple is too strict, and too controlling and needs to be more free and open.
So, with you, damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
And that simply reflects on you the reality that you are all about DAMNING APPLE without any other serious objectives or standards.
Hey, you’re the one throwing the tantrum, calling names, getting posts yanked, and not making a lick of sense...
Enjoy!
(of course does that mean the actual definition of enjoy, or what people think it might mean if applied to catching fire, or does it really mean to stick a fruitcake on your head and do the chickendance, because now we’ve decided that words don’t mean at all what they mean, and that invulnerable doesn’t mean invulnerable unless it does but still does not... I think that covers it!)
Have a good evening!
Buh bye....
I was mistaken? I posted an article, and there were many FReepers who said they had the same problem. How is that mistaken, unless you want to put everything through a partisan filter?
First, as soon as they SAW it, they handled it. Even before the electrons had cooled on your many ranting posts.
No, as soon as it was brought to their attention by some other publishers and then made the Internet news, Apple did something about it. They weren't proactive at all, they were totally reactive.
Second, this end run as not an APP. It was a bunch of ebooks. Ebooks are actually new and perhaps you are right, an even TIGHTER set of controls may be needed for these as well.
On the rankings, yes. However, as we've seen with other FReepers here, and as the report from Apple implies, it's not just books, it's all apps. So it's the entire App store that needs to be tightened up.
Perhaps they should use the approach of Bank of America, where a picture and pass-phrase that you select is presented before you can access your account? If you want to buy an app, click buy, go to checkout, and then you're presented with a few images on your confirm page. Click the one that you selected, and you're good to go!
And that simply reflects on you the reality that you are all about DAMNING APPLE without any other serious objectives or standards.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I had DAMNED APPLE, and I should know, since you've been adamant about me being a GD EVIL LIAR...
At least you're talking again...
Of course the apple site was hacked. They allowed illegal charges to be made to peoples accounts.
Dey wer hacked!
“So to put ANY blame on Apple? Ludicrous. Beyond reasonable. Outlandish. Ignorant. Dishonest.”
The merchant accounts vendors sign PLACES the BLAME on the company accepting the cards when this happens.
Looks up PCI Payment Card Industry certification. Read up on it. Apple is required to comply in order to accept credit cards.
Guess who pays the cost of replacing the cards and accounts, Apple.
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