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Where's the birth certificate?
Obama Conspiracy Theories ^ | Feb. 27, 2009 | Dr. Conspiracy

Posted on 03/01/2010 9:09:55 AM PST by curiosity

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To: justiceseeker93
Nope! I disagree.

The candidates should provide **all** the documentation and information that would do **two** things:

1) Prove they are eligible
2) or Prove they are ineligible.

**Both** are needed and it is the responsibility for the candidate and the Secretaries of State to come up with **both** types of information.

Obama is a perfect example of why this is needed. His history is especially complex. If only the long form birth certificate were required that is the **only** documentation someone like him would provide and he would **insist** that none other would be needed, and we would be in court trying to get the rest.

In Obama’s case, clearly, **all** these documents are needed: school applications, scholarship applications, social security number(s),selective service registration information, passport travel, repatriation records, and any documents ( even in kindergarten) that would prove or disprove his eligibility.

101 posted on 03/02/2010 1:19:07 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: justiceseeker93

And...By the way, I apologize if I misjudged you.


102 posted on 03/02/2010 1:20:14 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wintertime
The candidates should provide **all** the documentation and information that would do **two** things: (1) Prove that they are eleigible or (2) Prove that they are ineligible.

Proving that they are eligible would suffice. If they can't do that, the legislation I'd support would force them off the election ballot.

No sense compelling them to prove that they are ineligible. If they can't prove they are eligible by a specified date they'd be off the ballot anyway and could not be elected. Plus, forcing one to prove that he is ineligible might be forcing him to admit that he was committing a fraud to that point. I detest fraudsters as much as anyone, but we have something called constitutional protection against self-incrimination in the US; we can't compel anyone to admit to a criminal act, but instead we have to get the evidence for a possible fraud by some means other than by compelling it from a suspect.

103 posted on 03/02/2010 2:22:12 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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No sense compelling them to prove that they are ineligible. If they can’t prove they are eligible by a specified date they’d be off the ballot anyway and could not be elected.
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Surely they could provide the selected documents that would prove eligibility, but then fail to disclose those items that would disqualify them.

They could argue that they proved eligibility ( according to law) but that no law required them to provide **all** the documents ( both those that qualify them and those that disqualify them).

Fundamentally what we have is a moral rot problem.

At one time much of our nation’s affairs were oiled by the basic honor, honesty, and good will, between citizens, is now reduced to law codes.

It is very discouraging to me, because it is impossible to write enough laws, that are tightly enough crafted, to corral evil. Evil will leak through the most carefully crafted laws.

Fundamentally, if we are not an honest and honorable society of men and women of good will, our nation **will** fall. We will be slaves.


104 posted on 03/02/2010 3:38:32 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: edge919
It was very clearly stated by Blake in the video.

I watched it, and no, it wasn't.

But it is adorable how you birthers love to make things up!

105 posted on 03/02/2010 3:55:32 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
I watched it, and no, it wasn't. But it is adorable how you birthers love to make things up!

Either you didn't watch the video or you're just going to impersonate Obama's diapers as described by Blake.

106 posted on 03/02/2010 7:37:22 PM PST by edge919
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