Posted on 01/24/2010 7:51:38 AM PST by Kartographer
He who fails to prepare for the night, fails to prepare for the dawn.
I am a survivalalist and by nature a survivalist is an OPTIMIST. I do not have one pessimistic bone in my body. If what I just said sounds odd to you then you are not yet a survivalist and you do not understand the modern survivalist at all. It has been very difficult to communicate to the public and the mass communications media, the concept of an optimistic, hopeful survivalist.
A fireman is a fireman, not because he believes everything will burn, but because he believes much can be saved. Doctors don't believe in death, they believe in life, and a survivalist is not a survivalist becuase he beleives everything must be destroyed and everyone must die, he beleives that life and freedom can be saved, if people of good will are prepared. A fireman does not start fires, a doctor does not make disease and a survivalist does not make disaster.
Crime, disease, war, revolution, fire, flood, periodic financial collapse and famine are the results of nature and the nature of man and unfortunately are not within the power of anyone on this earth to prevent.
We all know that the sun will set each day, leaving us in darkness and we all know that warm summers give way to cold winters and that we can do nothing to keep the sun from setting ot the cold winds from coming, does this make us pessimistic? I think not! So then why is the survivalist called a pessimist when he makes ready to face events that are just as much part of history and nature as the sunset and changing of the seasons.
Another misconception is that survivalists are predicting world disaster. On the contrary, we seem to be the OPTIMISTIC MINORITY that is predicting world survival. We are hard pressed to find any well recommended historians, economists, political scientists, sociologists or military strategists that can come up with a scenario that gives even a fifty-fifty chance of avioding a large scale catastrophe, yet we survivalist dare to be OPTIMISTIC about the future. We survivalists do not need to predict the probability of disater anymore than we need to predict the sun setting.
Those who critize survivalists, are like men who refuse to look at a calendar, in the hope that through self-imposed ignorance they can keep from aging another year.
"You survivalists will be disappointed if we don't have a world cataclysm", here is another accusation that is pure B.S. and I could not think of a milder phrase to describe it. We survivalists have loved ones we don't want to see hurt or killed, we have homes we don't want to see destroyed, we are not fools to think that just because we are suvrvivalists a world cataclysm would be fun for us or the we would not experiance danger, loss, hunger, injury, cold or even despair and death.
We have spent time and money to improve our chances for survival and recovery from disaster, but we would have a great celebration if some day we could be assured that we had wasted our time. No, we will not be disappointed if there is no disaster to survive, anymore than the Red Cross is disappointed when there are no floods and storms or the man who buys an insurance policy is disappointed when his house fails to burn down.
It may be said that the survivalist would much prefer the pleasant (but unlikely) surprise of being wrong to the (probable) deadly rude awakening that the nonsurvivalist will face if he is wrong.
So, you see the survivalist can not lose because his survival prepartions will be of value regardless of what the future has in store. In time of crisis, those who have not prepared to turn to each other, will turn on each other.
It is most regrettable indeed, that many people consider survivalists as a threat and regard them with suspicion and even hostility. This attitude is logically indefensible and is rooted in the nonsurvivalists own sense of fear and guilt. Subconsciously, the nonsurvivalist may hate the survivalist for reminding him of how fragile his lifestyle is. Now, let's get the facts turned around right. THE MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE IN AMERICA TODAY ARE THE NONSURVIVALists. Every person who has not made provisions for surviving without food, water, fuel and other essential needs from the outside, is a mortal danger to his neighbors.
What will a man do when he and his family are freezing, hungry, thirsty, sick and starving? He may ask or beg his neighbors for help, but when they have no extra fuel, food, water or medicine to give, will he just go back home to die with his wife and kids? What do you think? We survivalists who stock up on food and other supplies, now do a favor to society because what we now buy is replaced on the shelves so there will be that much more available in an emergency. We survivalists won't be looting and killing for food. We won't be a burden on the medical facilities or a danger to the police. Since we will be able to turn to each other, we will not need to turn on anyone and we may be able to help at least some.
Survival preparation should be regarded as a social obligation, one that every individual owes to his family and community and his nation. The nonsurvivalist is simply a poor and irresponsible citizen.
So the reality is, that survivalists are optimistic, self-reliant individuals, who cannot help but see the imperitive of preparing for the worst possible events, while hoping sincerely, that they won't happen. Today's survivalist is an asset to his community and to the world and should be proud to be called SURVIVALIST.
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then no one survives.
Remember the parable of the women with the lamps on the journey to meet the bridegroom. When those who didn't heed advice and carry extra oil and trim their wicks, ran out - they asked those who had prepared, to share.
They were told, sorry, but if we share with you then none of us will make it
another point: Be careful who you let know you HAVE storage. Beside those who may decide to take your food, the gov't already has in place - should the 'need' arise - to call your storage "a hoard" you a "hoarder" and therefore a criminal. They will take your food and give it all those who didn't plan ahead...like themselves
I grew up in northern Maine - still in Maine - but I don't know's I could live as far north as you. A bit too cold and I couldn't make it through the long, sunless winters.
But moose stew - oh yeah.
Or if you have the finances, simply buy Mountain House dried foods that have a shelf-life of 30 years. You could even eat them out of the box without water, although that would suck, but you could survive.
http://www.mountainhouse.com/
When the shit hits the fan, wanna trade food for water? I doubt any of you would go apocalypse on me with a 870 facing you down.
We're prepared. Try to come close. I have killed only one man if my life, but when the bottom hits, I'm ready. The love of my life is what will make your kneeds bleed, not to mention your groin.
I'm 60, in shape, can fire a weapon, and run circles around men my age. I know where to aim to give the most pain. I will not kill you - I will make you wish I have put a simple quick bullet into your stupid brain. But I won't. I will blow out your ankles, then your knees, then your groin, and you will be spilling every suck as al-Queda shithead idea you ever had.
Yes, I will do that if given the chance. Do you have any concept how much it hurts to have a knee or elbow blown off? I want that so much. But of course, our stupid president is going to give you rights if you only surrender. Here's a clue...there are many radical Americans just waiting for the opportunity to take out your gentitals. You know, the parts that you get to use as a cover for your jihad. We're getting wise...you're in trouble.
So now bin Laden says the West should stop fighting you murderous pricks because we support Israel. Do you fuacks have any idea how rediculous your demands are?
First it was because the West was involved in the Middle East. Then it was about the West's involvement in other ME matters. Now it's about the Wests' support of Israel. Sheesh, you simpletons are stupid beyond rational belief.
And guess what? The West will kill you! You send one stupid Yeman trained bomber on a plane and you still couldn't make it happen. Al-Queda is neutered.
Hide asshole, hide. We're coming after you. You have no where to go. Even your best buddies in Pakistan are looking to KILL you every day, and doing a fine job. Just go away and live your lifes with your goats. Keep pretending you are revelant. Us bad Westerners know the score. You are nothing but punks. We are dedicated to blowing you into pieces and not allowing you to experience your 72 virgins.
Sorry shitheads, many of our Troops are coating bombs with PIG grease. "Justice is coming, and hell is coming with us". Either you back off, or the USA and others will keeping killing all of you. Your cause WILL be decimated if you don't stop.
You want to subjicate women; you want to kill women for being raped; you want to control and execute for the slightest infractions? It's going to end. It did in Iraw...you're next!
It's already written into law - should they declare martial law...
Those who have stored supplies will be deemed criminal HOARDERS - and there supplies taken.
And I wouldn't bet any one who resisted wouldn't be shot.
Word to the wise: be very careful who you let know you have storage. You'd be surprised who will turn on you in a crisis.
Learn how to forage for wild plants/foods in your state...
What if someone DOES take your storage foods - or, in the case of the gov’t ‘confiscate your hoard’?
And what if you have to leave your home -
or just to supplement...know which plants/foods are edible in the wilds. Ditto, which plants are good for medicinal uses. (Also, learn which herbs/plants you can grow for use as medicinals.)
So I’ve heard. I know someone who used to make indelible ink out of walnut shells as a kid.
The outside deteriorates eventually, but usually not before the squirrels get to them.
What with what walnuts cost in the stores, it sure would be nice to have my own “organic” walnuts.
For anyone interested in harvesting black walnuts, here is a link.
http://www.gardengrapevine.com/Walnuts.html
We have three trees on our property and several on the properties around us. For some reason, they are plentiful here. Anyway, I’ve often been tempted to do something about the nuts as it’s a free source of food. This year, I think I will.
They are messy trees and when they are dropping nuts, hazardous to mow under, but it should be worth learning to harvest them. I may kick myself for not doing it sooner.
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More than likely, they think that survivalists WILL share. Another mistake.
I would say that we have nothing to spare. It's not lying because we don't have any to spare. We have enough for us.
I have enough shotgun shells to last me some time, I pick them up when they are on sale. The storage ideas here for food supplies are great, but you also need to get your powder dry as well. I keep my ammo in Military ammo cans I have an advantage I can get them free on a regular basis. In addition the keeping ammo dry they also work great for keeping hardware (screws, nails, duct tape) dry.
Food and water will be a priority in a survival situation, but survival skills are nearly as important.
Those who have stored supplies will be deemed criminal HOARDERS ..."
Would you please let us know where we can find this particular law in online text? I'd really like to read it.
I have supplies and skills to barter with, as well.
You’d be surprised at how few people have any idea about canning or sewing.
Mr. mm can fix about anything, but especially heating systems.....
later.
I am a CubScout leader and it does amaze me how few people have BASIC survival skills, I love taking the families out in the woods camping and teach them, but it is also frustrating to see grown adults that have no ability to start a fire, or build a shelter. When the proverbial "poo hits the fan" there are going to be a ton of clueless people.
Seriously 16 year olds are fair game around here. Most of them a POS punks.
All my neighbors know that looting will not be tolerated. Oh and my street is full of Mormons and they are ok with that as long as I do the dirty work.
Fixed that.
My current stock is good for a couple of years. I will keep the expiration issue in mind. What I have stored is for the potential coming chaos in an obamanation. thanks for the thoughts.
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