Posted on 01/10/2010 12:50:40 AM PST by Wanpeirui
Ring around the rosey, ...
"Many have associated the poem with the Great Plague of London in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of bubonic plague in England. ...
"Folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons: ..."
Not a student of the Prophecy, I see.
Actually, I have an MDIV from a conservative seminary and was fairly steeped in just about everything that came out of Dispensationalist Theology. I just no longer accept a lot that is being preached in the American church as being true. I believe in the Bible, yes. False prophets, no.
Good for you, I gratefully accept that which He calls me to, whatever it may be. It’s a surrendering of our will, in order to even hear His calling us to Him.
Interesting article!
>>Not even Jesus claimed to know the times and dates of such things.<<
Denying the the divinity of Jesus is one of the oldest heresies. Jesus, the Son of God, knows all.
STIMULUS PACKAGE: An incredible sum of money used not to create jobs and stimulate the economy but money used to bribe "progressives" and other fools to continue their support of the takeover of the US Government
GLOBAL WARMING: A scam thought up by leftists to tax Western Societies heavily for the published purpose of limiting their use of energy to suppress their green house gas production. The real purpose is to tax the capitalists so heavily that their way of life is changed forever and seemingly endless funds are generated to continue the takeover.
HEALTH CARE BILL: The population is taught that FREE HEALTH CARE for the poor and the reduction of spending by the Federal Government is the purpose for this takeover of our health care system. The real reason is another entitlement program to strangle the system.
ISLAM IN OUR SOCIETY: An Islamic Major shoots dozens of unarmed soldiers, a president convinces Congress no investigation is needed. An underwear bomber is given Constitutional rights and the interrogation stops that might reveal more plots and might save lives. If the bomb had gone off and destroyed the airplane in flight, do you think you'd have ever known the truth?
BARACK OBAMA: A radical leftist that the press debates may be taking us toward socialism when his real purpose is to destroy our system of government and remove our individual liberties. He was created in a fairytale with his real background records sealed. Criticisms are labeled racists and he is given a magical pass that excludes criticism as he is erasing all of our radical racists past history.
As the Earth progresses toward a colder period, GLOBAL WARMING is renamed CLIMATE CHANGE. As HEALTH CARE cost projections grow to show the scam, the government meets in secret sessions to ram through this radical legislation (you do know that MEDICARE is a broke, don't you?). As the first STIMULUS PACKAGE is shown to be a total failure the radical FEDERAL GOVERNMENT proposes another package with the thought that the 10% unemployment figure would be worse if we hadn't done so much earlier.
You get the point: The government controlled press controls what you think. Nuts like Glenn Beck only see some of the trees in the forest but they too are blinded by the enormity of the lie. They reason like you, this series of lies could never happen in America.
In the mean time, don't forget those meds!
Just asking :)
As opposed to which church other than American which holds the truth.
I am unaware that the "American church" is that much different than say the "African church" or "China hurch"
What did you mean by "American church" or is that an euphemism for "Protestant" or non-denomination church?
My statement was not in reference to the churches of other countries. It was in reference to the only thing left in America that resembles biblical Christianity—conservative, evangelical churches. Too many churches in America are preaching a feel good gospel, are enamored with different theological doctrines or controversies, or are just preaching to the choir with sermons about sin and hell. However, if the knowledge of God is missing, then none of this has any meaning at all, and none of this will help you in times of trouble. A Gospel without the knowledge of God and his ways at the very core is essentially a false Gospel, no matter how many Scriptures are quoted and how biblical it sounds.
So the "government controlled press" only is in control of our minds when dems/libs are in power?
I remember when the republicans were in control of the power in DC, there were daily multiple articles from "government controlled press" that exposed even the most mundane issues as well as national security secrets.
All in the name of a "free press"
We recently changed church membership because the church we were attending changed pastors and was simply preaching pablum every Sunday.
My wife and I have always attended "conservative, evangelical churches" (non-denominational) since my conversion in 1989.
We decided to visit mainline denominations (Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodists and a few other) to see what was out there since we never have attended any before.
All I can say, it was quite depressing.
You really need to become better informed before you start accusing others of heresy. It was Jesus who said, referring to the end times, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew 24: 36; Mark 13: 32). Since Jesus is the Son of God, then by your standards he is a heretic, because he said that he didn’t know.
Sorry, the Great Plague of London in 1665 was the same plague as the Black Death, and scholars have traditionally associated the rhyme with this event, no matter what the revisionists over at Wikipedia might say. Even if Wikipedia is correct, it does not at all affect the historical truth of the plague and peoples’ attitudes to and experience of it.
A Gospel without the knowledge of God and his ways at the very core is essentially a false Gospel.
Would you mind sharing a little bit of what you mean by knowledge of God?
I thought your post was great.
I am 52 and have never really suffered, especially not for my faith.
That isn't what I had stated... I observed that it seems that you are not a student of the Prophecy.
I am not a Dispensationalist, but I am far closer to them (very close) compared to Replacement theology, Preterism, or others. Nor am I endorsing a pre-tribulation Rapture (The Bible clearly states that it occurs at the sounding of the seventh trump). We are sure to have to live through a portion of the tribulation. And it will be a very dire time.
The general gist of your OP I would accept to some degree, and admire...
But I would strenuously object to the idea that His coming is afar off. All of the Prophecy points to His coming soon.
This fits with the last part of your post.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2424981/posts
Knowing him. Having a personal, living relationship with him. Walking with him, being dealt with by him. When everything else has been stripped away and all you have left to rely on is God and his promise, when only he can help you and sustain you and you no longer have any resources of your own to rely on, then you quickly discover what it means to know God, rather than just some creed, doctrine, or words on a page. Most Christians in America would fail this test in a heartbeat, which is exactly the problem I am trying to speak to. There’s not enough space here to give a complete testimony, but trust me, I’ve been through everything I’ve just described, and seen too many other people—in some cases friends—fall by the wayside because of comparatively minor trials, so I know what I’m talking about. There has to be more to one’s relation with God than just church, Bible study, hymns, and early morning devotionals if you really want to get through times of trouble. You have to know him.
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