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There is a pretty good argument to be made that the Democrats have already sidestepped the potential for any kind of activist (i.e., violent) revolution/resistance by the extremely incremental nature of all of this. By the time people see the consequences and WANT to revolt, it will be way too late.
1 posted on 12/24/2009 5:08:10 AM PST by LS
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So America, essentially 220 Congressmen, 60 Senators and 1 F*cked up president (= 281 communists) can tell 300 million American Citizens how it is going to be. Add in another 5 arrogant unelected SCOTUS snobs, and we become slaves to tyranny.

I say ‘We the People’ faced down tyranny 233 years ago, and if that is the best the Federal Government can offer, we need a new Declaration of Independence and a new country.

Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


44 posted on 12/24/2009 6:06:50 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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The lesson is obvious since CFR, Kelo, and Lawrence V Texas. Since the blessed-of-memory Terri Schindler appeals. We can not count on the legal system and the Supreme Court.

We have to take back America by massive votes and ferocious legal actions to protect against vote fraud or by very personal rebellions against tyranny.


48 posted on 12/24/2009 6:10:50 AM PST by bvw
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I would not rule out the possibility that the Supreme Court will ultimately be forced to rule on the meaning of the Commerce Clause, which Progressives have wielded as a blank check for legislative expansion.

What forces their hand, however will likely not be political agitation but economic collapse.

America's current levels of debt are mathematically unsupportable; the only thing keeping our collective heads above water is an artificially low interest rate on US dollars (zero percent, actually) enforced by the Federal Reserve. As demand for American debt continues to diminish, the Fed will no longer be able to maintain short-term rates at the present level. The cost of debt service will skyrocket, along with defaults.

Then: there are taxes. The burden on the most productive Americans is about to explode. Recall that these are the same people create 80-90% of all new jobs following a recession. Those jobs will never be created. Investment capital will continue to dry up, flowing as it has to other countries whose tax and regulatory structure is more favorable and whose labor costs are lower.

Then there are is banking industry - significantly government-owned and transparent as mud. What of all those real estate assets worth... what? No one knows. Our government blithely allows CITI and BOA and the rest to pretend their derivative products are worth what they were worth prior to the crash last year, all objective evidence to the contrary. And the mortgages on which they hold paper - both commercial and residential - are increasingly in deep, deep trouble.

Oh, and then: add the deadening, profit-killing effect of a massive new health care bureaucracy... and disaster looms. Which leads to what this President and his Marxist cadre really want: a blank check many times larger than the Commerce Clause and the General Welfare Clause rolled together to control all, remaking America in the Progressive image; a People's Democratic Republic of America.

There will come a pivotal moment at which our Constitution must either be enforced or renounced; no other choice will be left because the nation will face two starkly different visions of the future: rebuilding under a free enterprise capitalist system, or consolidation under the European socialist model.

I believe that moment will come far sooner than most people appear to believe.

50 posted on 12/24/2009 6:20:02 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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O’Conner is no longer on the court. Her replacement will not vote the way she did.


55 posted on 12/24/2009 6:32:52 AM PST by sportutegrl (I was for Sarah Palin before being for Sarah was cool.)
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I don’t want to ever, ever again hear how the two parties are the same

The two parties are the same. McCain would've had a similar bill, with all of the GOP voting for it, and Dems opposing it because itmight bolster GOP popularity. Both sides want more revenues, both sides want more control, both sides want majorities, both sides want more popularity (and thus job security), both sides have voted to change election rules to make 3rd parties less likely to succeed, both sides continue to allow anti-Constitutional policies and Departments to continue... not too many differences there.

63 posted on 12/24/2009 6:47:50 AM PST by Teacher317
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I choose to believe you’re wrong because if you’re right, I have to unscrew the Dim bulbs in the White House, the Capital, and the SCOTUS. That’s a lot of unscrewing!


67 posted on 12/24/2009 6:55:59 AM PST by JohnQ1 (War declared. Fire at will.)
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The only choice right now is secession.
Conservatives need to find their own place (Texas, the Dakotas, Oklahoma) and build vibrant nations out of them. The liberals parasites can have their hellholes.
69 posted on 12/24/2009 7:14:32 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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With people like Sandra Day O’Connor (departedm yes!) and Ruth Ginsburg, and this funny Sotomayor the American people can sleep safely at night, knowing their “liberties” are being protected by those “who care”.


76 posted on 12/24/2009 7:45:57 AM PST by Theodore R.
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Obama and his fellow Communists in Congress have written illegal acts into the DeathCare bill. They’ve written in Senate “Rules” such as no Sentor is allowed to submit a bill that canels DeathCare.

These Communists fully beleive that they can do as they pelase and there is nothing you can or will do about it.


81 posted on 12/24/2009 8:02:57 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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Republicans, running on dismantling the health non-care system will be fighting both the image of taking health care away from granny AND “spending more money.”

This may not be true for several reasons.

1. If polls are to be believed that 85% of the public likes the health care that they have, then granny already has health care. 85% of the people will know who it is who is taking their health care away.

2. If news reports are to be believed that only 15 million (not 50 million) people have health care, and the rest are youths and people between jobs, then the people already have health care and will know who it is who is taking it away.

Let's not keep propping up that cannard that the Republicans will get blamed for everything every time as an excuse for just taking it and not fighting back.

-PJ

90 posted on 12/24/2009 10:10:36 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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