Posted on 12/23/2009 12:38:18 PM PST by RGirard
For the well-being and redemption of my two sons, Ben (he's a Lance Corporal, USMC, at Al-Asad, Iraq) and Vanya (he's a 10th grader.)
You could throw in a good word for me, too.
:o)
“First of all I was trying to get at the fact that nowhere in Scripture does it say that Scripture is the only source of Truth. The Church has always accepted Sacred Tradition as the other component of Divine Revelation.”
But it does in 1 Timothy and you can see the mess that accepting “sacred tradition” made in the Jewish religion.
Nice mis-interpretation and stretch.
Sacred Tradition has nothing to do with Judaism. It has to do with the Revelation of Jesus Christ and the Apostles he appointed.
Can you determine a time in history when this corruption is supposed to have occurred?
Yes in Luthers time the Church was very corrupt. Selling indulgences to get time off in hell was one example.The Medici Popes were terrible people in some cases.The church is run by men and men can always be corrupt , even Popes. Free will .
The Church has had individually corrupt leaders and members such as Judas, but this did not corrupt “the Church” by altering Church doctrine. Luther claimed that Catholic Church doctrine had become corrupt but never could specify when this corruption was supposed to have taken place.
The Church has had individually corrupt leaders and members such as Judas, but this did not corrupt “the Church” by altering Church doctrine. Luther claimed that Catholic Church doctrine had become corrupt but never could specify when this corruption was supposed to have taken place.
Personally I believe Jesus was born April 6th
Honestly, I just like to call people names!
Corruption takes place over time ... just like with our Government, there may be particular dates in time that historians can refer to because of significant events, but when did our Government become corrupt? Impossible to say
That is not a good analogy because our government was founded mostly by deists. In many ways our government was corrupted from the beginning when Hamilton established the National Bank. The Early Church was founded by Christ and the Holy Spirit guiding His Apostles. If the original Church doctrine was divinely inspired to be true, then at what historical council or papal proclamation was Church doctrine demonstrated to have become something less than true?
By “Church” do you mean the Catholic church, or the true church which is the body of believers?
“do you mean the Catholic church, or the true church which is the body of believers?”
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Like Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, the Clintons, snake handlers and televangelists for example!
By "Early Church doctrine," I mean that doctrine inspired by the Holy Spirit, preached by the Apostles, and accepted by the body of believers. Was there ever a break between inspired Early Church doctrine and traditional Catholic Church doctrine?
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