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Another source, Kenyan Historian states Obama is a Kenyan citizen
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/kenyan-historian-ali-mazrui-states-obama-kenyan-citizen/ ^ | Nov 15,2009 | syc1959

Posted on 11/27/2009 12:02:11 PM PST by syc1959

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To: Beckwith
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Beckwith searching for that clause in the Constitution or that law that defines three classes of citizenship.

261 posted on 12/03/2009 2:52:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
You contend that there are only two classes of citizen -- natural born and naturalized -- thereby making anchor babies eligible to be CiC.

Your contention is that there is no reference to "native born" in the law.

You are simply wrong.

Here are legal references that proves you are misinformed to the max -- and I have more:

Native Born citizen:

This principle was clearly stated by Attorney General Edwards Pierrepont in his letter of advice to the Secretary of State Hamilton Fish, in Steinkauler’s Case, 1875, 15 Op.Atty.Gen. 15. The facts were these: One Steinkauler, a Prussian subject by birth, emigrated to the United States in 1848, was naturalized in 1854, and in the following year had a son who was born in St. Louis. Four years later Steinkauler returned to Germany taking this child and became domiciled at Weisbaden where they continuously resided. When the son reached the age of twenty years the German Government called upon him to report for military duty and his father then invoked the intervention of the American Legation on the ground that his son was a native citizen of the United States. To an inquiry by our Minister, the father declined to give an assurance that the son would return to this country within a reasonable time. On reviewing the pertinent points in the case, including the Naturalization Treaty of 1868 with North Germany, 15 Stat. 615, the Attorney General reached the following conclusion: ‘Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen.

Mr. Steinkauler was found to be a “native born citizen” because he was born in the mainland USA (St. Louis).

Other "Native Born" references:

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) -- The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a "native born citizen."

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939) -- The cross petition of Miss Elg, upon which certiorari was granted in No. 455, is addressed to the part of the decree below which dismissed the bill of complaint as against the Secretary of State. The dismissal was upon the ground that the court would not undertake by mandamus to compel the issuance of a passport or control by means of a declaratory judgment the discretion of the Secretary of State. But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants

Now go back under your rock.


262 posted on 12/03/2009 3:57:17 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith
You are simply wrong.

Hardly.

Mr. Steinkauler was found to be a “native born citizen” because he was born in the mainland USA (St. Louis).

Maybe you need to read the letter rather than Birther sites. In the letter AG Pierrpont says, "The status of young Steinkauler, and his right to protection from the Government of the United States, depends primarily upon his nationality. Nationality is either natural or acquired. The one results from birth, the other from the operation of the laws of kingdom or states...Young Steiukauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of twenty-one, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States..."

Attorney General Pierrepont agrees that there are two forms of citizenship, and that natural-born and native born are synonymous. Link

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) -- The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a "native born citizen."

No, the holding was: "The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States."

Ark was found to be a citizen by birth, AKA a natural-born citizen. Nothing in the Ark decision supports the idea that there are three or more classes of citizenship. Nothing in the decision identifies or implies that there is a difference between citizen at birth and natural-born citizen. Link

Now go back under your rock.

Now stick your head back up where it usually resides and keep on looking.

263 posted on 12/03/2009 4:28:17 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: syc1959

obumpa


264 posted on 12/03/2009 8:32:15 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: trumandogz

Did you ever see or heard when Gov. Richardson said that your illegal alien and usurper in the W.H is an IMMIGRANT???


265 posted on 12/03/2009 10:22:35 PM PST by danamco
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To: Beckwith

Lemmings do not hibernate through the harsh northern winter. They remain active, finding food by burrowing through the snow and utilizing grasses clipped and stored in advance. They are solitary animals by nature, meeting only to mate and then going their separate ways, but like all rodents they have a high reproductive rate and can breed rapidly when food is plentiful.


266 posted on 12/03/2009 10:33:31 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
Did you ever see or heard when Gov. Richardson said that your illegal alien and usurper in the W.H is an IMMIGRANT???

No, but if that is the case, you should get that information to Orly Taitz so that she can include that nugget of information in her next legal filing.

267 posted on 12/04/2009 1:55:13 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Why should I give that to Orly, when you are supposed to get that information from your employer in the White House basement?

However just brush on you Spanish to learn that the one you are defending really is an IMMIGRANT and NOT qualified to be your boos in the W.H.!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5OUdj_YIpo


268 posted on 12/04/2009 8:38:49 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

Okay, if you wish to walk into a courtroom attempting to prove that Obama is not an NBC, presenting only a video of Bill Richardson as your evidence, good luck to you.


269 posted on 12/04/2009 12:22:08 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Regardless your usually side-stepping, the real question is, is he an immigrant???


270 posted on 12/04/2009 1:44:25 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama is an immigrant.


271 posted on 12/04/2009 3:16:27 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Non-Sequitur

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272 posted on 12/04/2009 3:41:24 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

I expect he’ll come up with something sooner or later. Probably off some birther website.


273 posted on 12/04/2009 3:58:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: trumandogz
There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama is an immigrant.

Likewise there are plenty of evidence whatsoever that Barry IS an immigrant!!!

274 posted on 12/04/2009 4:00:54 PM PST by danamco
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To: syc1959

hmmm


275 posted on 12/04/2009 9:48:10 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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To: syc1959

NPR archive describes Obama as ‘Kenyan-born’
April 9, 2010 12:12:02 AM EDT · by RobinMasters · 8 replies · 243+ views
WorldNetDaily ^ | APRIL 8, 2010 | Bob Unruh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489546/posts


276 posted on 04/08/2010 9:28:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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