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CRU UPDATE
UEA- Climatic Reasearch Unit ^ | 11/23/2009

Posted on 11/23/2009 2:06:13 PM PST by Duke C.

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To: Duke C.

Inside job....put the stuff on a flash drive and walk out. That’s what I think.

If that’s what the CRU honchos think then everyone is paranoid there now. Could their colleague be the leaker? Everyone is suspecting everyone else.


21 posted on 11/23/2009 3:48:51 PM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That has got to be a really DESPERATE EXCUSE,...

Yes it is. But it is not new. They have been fending off Steve McIntyre's FOI requests with this excuse for some time.

22 posted on 11/23/2009 3:56:36 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: potlatch; All

More good stuff over here:

http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/11/the-biggest-scandal-of-all-is-this.html

which was a link from here:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/


23 posted on 11/23/2009 4:23:06 PM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: hyperconservative

Sorry if this is a repeat, but here’s a handy site:

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php


24 posted on 11/23/2009 4:27:59 PM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: hyperconservative

Thanks for the links!


25 posted on 11/23/2009 5:45:07 PM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: potlatch

Sure, ‘tis with glee!

—Con’t from other thread,
using keyword, “model mean climate AR4” yields like 686 results, which is cool(makes searching a tad easier).

In this one from Feb. ‘98, they share how-to advice on cooking the data.
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=47&filename=.txt

A short quote, “

The bottom line here is that consistency is impossible if one uses
only GHG patterns. Column 6 was included deliberately, and after some
thought (along the lines noted above).

Of course, it is possible to get column 6 results by adding
columns 2, 3, 4 and 5 as they now stand (and as they are in the version
that you have). However, one cannot do this with the correct *raw*
column 3, 4, and 5 output because of the nonlinear direct forcing effect.
It just happens that, in your version, I ‘faked up’ column 5 as the
difference between column 6 and the sum of columns 2, 3 and 4. I did this
simply to get the code working; but (as you now know) I never got around
to fixing it up until now. In the latest version, column 6 is again equal
to the sum of columns 2, 3, 4 and 5 because I scale columns 3, 4 and 5 to
ensure that this is so.”

well, shazam!
Take care, FRiends.


26 posted on 11/23/2009 5:53:20 PM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: Gaffer
I think that the CRU and the university that sponsors them should be notified that they will be sued under international law for aiding and abetting the perpetration of a massive fraud on the rest of the world which resulted in untold billions of useless spending and emotional and traumatic suffering whilst having to listen to asswipes like ALGORE rant about 'de Planet! de Planet!'....

Al Gore may be frog marched to the Hague before Bush. (;>)

27 posted on 11/23/2009 5:59:53 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Duke C.

It definitely looks like the work of a whistleblower. A hacker would have gone for stuff of financial value or done it for some measure of notoriety.

The info released was specifically damaging to the CRU.


28 posted on 11/23/2009 6:02:33 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: hyperconservative
From the first link: "And I ask the Presidents and Prime Ministers again: how do you know the climate "scientists" briefing you are not fudging the data to hide inconvenient truths from you?"

Isn't it more likely that the politicians and fraudsters are in collusion for the purpose of relieving us all of our wallets?

29 posted on 11/23/2009 6:09:13 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Stentor

btt


30 posted on 11/23/2009 6:10:32 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Stentor

Yes, and of our freedoms.

^^
another good keyword is “HadCM2”
it only produces 10 results, but they’re pretty meaty (on 1st skim/glancing read, anyways).


31 posted on 11/23/2009 6:24:38 PM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Bullshit...war is war.

Snap out of it; slap thyself.

32 posted on 11/23/2009 6:27:04 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama is a DIC....... Ditherer-in-Chief)
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To: hyperconservative

correction, it’s
“HADCM2 SUL”

sorry anyone
guess I need a break.


33 posted on 11/23/2009 6:33:28 PM PST by hyperconservative (Remember. Dream. Fight.)
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To: Duke C.

Once you’ve committed fraud, hypocrisy becomes a no brainer.


34 posted on 11/23/2009 6:39:24 PM PST by vamoose
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To: Gaffer; Duke C.; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"I think that the CRU and the university that sponsors them should be notified that they will be sued under international law for aiding and abetting the perpetration of a massive fraud on the rest of the world which resulted in untold billions of useless spending and emotional and traumatic suffering whilst having to listen to asswipes like ALGORE rant about 'de Planet! de Planet!'...."
And it appears that Senator Inhofe OK, has this exact idea in mind (at least from a legal investigation of them). As I harp elsewhere, a lot of what we would term patriotic American Senators and HR must fall in line with Inhofe at this stage. Senator Boxers and the rest must be displayed as show cases... demonstrated to willingly undermine what is left of America's industrial and economic might. Let the line now be drawn in the sand. Your either for America or your not. Put these miserable bastards on the line. The L/MSM can only hold down so much. The whole Internet would have to be closed down to prevent hundreds of millions of people to not see what is going on at this point.
Not to appear crude intentionally, assholes like Al Gore had better be put in line soon. They must be disgraced and shown to be un-American for all to see.
As for zero man and his masters... will they bow out of this global warming sham, for sake of appearing concerned for the health of this nation and be willing to let the al bores to thrown under the proverbial buss is yet to be seen.
35 posted on 11/23/2009 7:53:26 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Meanwhile the propaganda flow from the AP continues...from yesterday's Local paper the Long Beach Press-Telegram :

Impact of global climate change speeds up

********************************EXCERPT***********************************

By Seth Borenstein, The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Since the 1997 international accord to fight global warming, climate change has worsened and accelerated - beyond some of the grimmest of warnings made back then.

As the world has talked for a dozen years about what to do next, new ship passages opened through the once frozen summer sea ice of the Arctic. In Greenland and Antarctica, ice sheets have lost trillions of tons of ice. Mountain glaciers in Europe, South America, Asia and Africa are shrinking faster than before.

And it's not just the frozen parts of the world that have felt the heat in the dozen years leading up to next month's climate summit in Copenhagen:

Even the gloomiest climate models back in the 1990s didn't forecast results quite this bad so fast.

"The latest science is telling us we are in more trouble than we thought," said Janos Pasztor, climate adviser to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

Andhere's why: Since an agreement to reduce greenhouse gas pollution was signed in Kyoto, Japan, in December 1997, the level of carbon dioxide in the air has increased 6.5 percent. Officials from across the world will convene in Copenhagen next month to seek a follow-up pact, one that President Barack Obama says "has immediate operational effect ... an important step forward in the effort to rally the world around a solution."

The last effort didn't quite get the anticipated results.

36 posted on 11/24/2009 5:57:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Marine_Uncle

I agree with your post.

We need to DEAMND a thorough investigation of this research/scheme/HOAX!

Those that are strangely silent are part of the problem!!


37 posted on 11/24/2009 6:53:42 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: MediaMole
It definitely looks like the work of a whistleblower. A hacker would have gone for stuff of financial value or done it for some measure of notoriety. The info released was specifically damaging to the CRU.

I also think it was an inside whistle-blower. I'm thinking one of the junior researchers, on the basis of "who benefits":

The younger researchers had every incentive to blow the whistle before they were left holding the bag.
38 posted on 11/24/2009 7:03:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Stentor
From the first link: "And I ask the Presidents and Prime Ministers again: how do you know the climate "scientists" briefing you are not fudging the data to hide inconvenient truths from you?" Isn't it more likely that the politicians and fraudsters are in collusion for the purpose of relieving us all of our wallets?

The politicians are the ones DEMANDING that AGW be made to seem true, as an excuse to grab money and power. Being pro-AGW was a condition of receiving government grant money.

Of course, once it's all exposed as a sham, the biggest culprits will be first in line to throw the researchers to the wolves, screaming "We were MISLED!"

39 posted on 11/24/2009 7:06:54 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: azkathy
"Those that are strangely silent are part of the problem!!"
Of course you are correct in full.
40 posted on 11/24/2009 4:22:38 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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