Posted on 10/18/2009 6:07:15 PM PDT by blueyon
Which rule says that?
“Royal Birthing Stones”
In this case, more like a royal pain of rocks in the rump.
I didn’t say that out loud did I?
Indeed. And, he's had his hands full trying to get his name off of the terrorist list in G.B.
So, from his personal perspective, I guess he figures he's got enough on his plate for now.
I can sometimes listen to Savage after 10 PM, if conditions are right, on the Atlanta 750 AM station. How good he is often depends upon the topic, especially if he’s not talking about himself or how to make meatballs, but he’s been very good talking about obama lately.
What happens to them after the birth???
First came the birthers, then came the AFTER-birthers, aka anti-birthers.
They made him an offer he couldn’t refuse, and to cement the deal and insure his pwnership, they had him hire this dweeb.
Ya know, the mob didnt care too much what other people thought of their tactics, either.
Don’t they throw them in the garbage can or grinding up for cosmetics???
Here are excerpts from an e-mail I received:
From The Desk Of Gary G. Kreep
Dear Friend of the Constitution,
Barack Hussein Obama is not happy! When his taxpayer paid U. S. Department of Justice (”DOJ”) attorneys walked into court on October 5, 2009, expecting United States Federal District Court Judge David Carter to immediately dismiss the birth certificate case, he did not get his way! Their legal arguments were hollow and unconvincing. and after hearing hours of argument, Judge Carter took the matter under submission. He has still not issued a ruling, 14 days later!
According to the DOJ Attorneys: The President Is Above the Law and the Courts!
The DOJ attorneys told the Judge that no Court in the United States had the right to rule on whether Barack Hussein Obama was eligible to serve as President of the United States! In their view, he could only be impeached and/or disqualified from the Office of President under the 25th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution.
THIS IS NOT TRUE! As USJF pointed out to the Court, both in our pleadings and in our oral presentation at the hearing, both the impeachment statutes, and the 25th Amendment require a sitting President. However, if Mr. Obama is not eligible to serve as President, he could not be, and never was, a sitting President, so those options for removal could not apply. Therefore the courts would have jurisdiction.
Monday, October 5, 2009, , at 8:30 a.m., in California, was a critical milestone for our entire legal and public relations effort to force Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate, as well as other documents, to prove whether he is eligible to serve as President of the United States. And with your support USJF was able to be there to argue the case.
This case has an excellent chance to survive the Department of Justice (”DOJ”) motion to dismiss, and it what has proven to be the best chance for America to have a hearing on the merits on this critical Constitutional issue.
What happened that day in Court? It’s very simplethe DOJ attorneys brought up every argument that they could to try to persuade the Court to dismiss this case
USJF provided sound legal arguments against all of the DOJ legal theories, and we were the only ones to do so; otherwise the whole case could have been over right then and there! The USJF oral arguments at the hearing may well be the difference between this case surviving or being dismissed.
The Judge raised issues critical to our case:
1. Did U.S. Senators question the eligibility of Mr. Obama? (Only USJF was able to tell the Court that Senators Coburn and Shelby and a number of House of Representative members had done so.)
2. Were objections made by Members of Congress when the vote of the Electoral College was certified? (Only USJF was able to tell the Court that NO, then Vice-President Cheney had not performed his required duty of asking for objections, so there could have been none raised.)
DOJ attorneys also argued that only Congress, and/or the Electoral College, could decide on the eligibility of Mr. Obama. Fortunately, the USJF legal team, and only the USJF legal team, filed pleadings pointing out that the DOJ legal arguments in this regard WERE WRONG! And, I was there to argue against those false claims.
People at the hearing and those who have found out what happened there since have been contacting USJF, thanking us for standing up for the truth!
But the fight is not over yet! We expect a ruling from the Court any day now. If we defeat the dismissal motion, then we’re immediately filing pleadings (”discovery”) seeking Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, his college records, and much, much more. AND, we’ll be seeking to depose Mr. Obama ASAP!
And if the Court grants the motion to dismiss, we’ll be immediately filing an appeal of the decision!
Judge Carter has set a trial date of January 26, 2010 in this case. To keep that date, we need to defeat the DOJ dismissal motion, and then, IMMEDIATELY, move right into the discovery phase discussed above. WE WILL NEED TO:
Retain attorneys in Washington, D. C., to take the Obama deposition.
Retain attorneys in Hawaii to take the deposition of those in control of the Obama birth records and school records.
Take the deposition of Occidental, College officials to obtain Obama school records
Retain attorneys in Massachusetts to take the deposition of Harvard. Law School officials to obtain Obama school records there.
Pay the cost of the court reporters for all of these depositions. Plus,
Pay the cost of serving the subpoenas on the various witnesses.
We expect the DOJ, as well as Mr. Obama’s private attorneys, to fight us every step of the way! Mr. Obama’s attorneys will file motions to block the depositions in each and every state, and the District of Columbia, trying to block us from obtaining the truth at every turn !
Question the issue of the passport files of Mr. Obama! We’re going after the records of how he traveled abroad without a United States Passport in the 1980’s, as he admits doing.
Question the issue of his alleged adoption by his step-father in Indonesia! We’ll be seeking records about that also!
Resolve questions about his Selective Service files! We’ll be seeking records concerning that also!
But, first, we have to get past the DOJ dismissal motion!
The DOJ’s motion to dismiss also claims that our clients have no “standing,” and that the matter is “political.”
But, if we as citizens of the United States have no “standing” to verify the citizenship of the man occupying the White House, who does? If our Federal Courts have no jurisdiction to hear this case, who does? It’s not a “political” question, it’s a CONSTITUTIONAL question!
Last November, people said we were crazy to pursue this issue. Now, we’ve been shown to be right in our pursuit of the truth. It’s not just the original birth certificate that they’re refusing to release. Barack Obama’s legal team has spent, according to published reports, over $1.4 million dollars so far to STOP anyone from seeing ANY of his actual identification documents, and many other documents.
WHAT is Barack Obama trying to hide? WHAT is he afraid of? WHY doesn’t he just release these documents to prove if he is a natural-born citizen and therefore qualified to be president — especially his actual birth certificate?
When Barack Obama officially entered the office of President, he became, in essence, apparently, a “pretender to the throne.” According to the Constitution, only a “natural born citizen” can occupy the presidency.
Even though he was sworn in on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama is NOT legally the President of the United States, unless he can prove that he is a “natural born citizen.”
What’s more, every action taken by him while he occupies the White House may be invalid. If he cannot legally be President, every law passed by Congress will be null and void because the Constitution clearly requires that all laws be signed by the President... and, without a legally elected and sworn in President in office, that becomes an impossibility.
This Constitutional crisis must be ended! And it must be ended NOW!
And that’s just what we’re fighting to do. The United States Justice Foundation is spearheading a campaign to protect the United States Constitution... and your liberty.
We have to press our case to stop Barack Obama from, apparently, illegally holding the Presidency, despite the ongoing threats against us. We are speaking of filing additional lawsuits and administrative actions, over and above the dozens already filed, if you will help us today.
Are you willing to see the Constitution shredded by the Left? Will you sit back and do nothing while a foreign-born person may be illegally occupying the White House as President of the United States?
Our country is on the fast track to disaster. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!
America has never before faced such a threat. Everything we hold dear is at risk with Barack Obama sitting as President without him releasing his actual birth certificate, plus the dozens of other documents that he refuses to produce.
Please remember that we are fighting in the California Appellate Court system.
Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution.
“http://www.martindale.com/Siddharth-Velamoor/33735949-lawyer.htm
Columbia University, J.D.
Dartmouth College, A.B.
http://pview.findlaw.com/view/4073288_1?channel=CCC
Comenius University School of Law, Bratislava, Slovakia, 2008, J.D. Honors: Harlan Fiske Stone Scholar
London School of Economics and Political Science, 2005 M.Sc.
Dartmouth College, 2004, A.B.”
So what exactly is your thesis here? It seems like you’re not willing to accept that somebody might have made a simple data entry error, and that there *must* be something more nefarious going on. Despite the fact that the entry *right next to* the Slovakian school’s name is a scholarship that’s only given to Columbia students?
But what’s your alternative? Are you suggesting that the guy actually went to two law schools? That a Dartmouth graduate went to a Slovakian law school? That he *didn’t* go to Columbia, and is lying about that? That at some point he lied and claimed to have gone to a non-ABA approved Slovakian law school instead of Columbia?
How does any of that make even a fraction of the sense that ‘Somebody accidentally clicked the next school listed in a dropdown box’ does?
“I source my material, using the concept of “Trust, but verify”:”
Heh. Like when you went on and on trying to make some point about how ‘Bride’ and ‘Groom’ don’t appear on birth records, when the only place those words have appeared at all is in Hawaii’s MARRIAGE index ( http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/ObamaDunhamMarriage.htm “MARRIAGE INDEX — OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING”)?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2353627/posts?page=57#57
Stellar attention to detail there. And your source? A mere blog post by Leo Donofrio, which of course, got those details wrong.
Trust but verify, indeed.
I have posted several youtube videos showing how this went down, with Pelousy standing up, clapping like a crazy woman and, of course, the audience joined in. Cheney never asked for objections, but the videos I've seen panning the crowd show one man standing with his hand raised as if to object had objections been asked for as required. Very curious.
I very much respect VP Cheney, but I am puzzled by this. Was procedure simply overlooked in the historic moment? Did he do so on purpose? If so, why? Did he chicken out? Does he know something that we may eventually know? Very curious.
Thanks for the ping!
Loren, you really need to learn the difference between knowledge and wisdom. Here, let's re-live this blast-from-your-past for size (circa-2006):
For many of us, our ancestors came to this country during times when virtually anyone was free to do so, at the time of their choosing. It is only in the last eighty years that we began throwing up roadblocks, and only in the last forty that we put a lid on Mexican immigration.
We should reconsider a return to those earlier days, when America was a land of opportunity with an open door for anyone who wished to pass through. Many people desire to come here to share and experience what we already have. As in the days of Ellis Island, if they can be vetted and found clean and trustworthy, then they're welcome to come. Through the use of computerized records, and the opportunity to apply at consular offices, it could be a smoother process than it ever was before.
It may seem strange to liberalize legal immigration as a means of fighting illegal immigration, but it works to everyone’s benefit. Not the least of which is that under a more lenient system, there is all the more reason to suspect and target those persons who choose to enter illegally. LOL. After looking at your weak grasp of the history of immigration in this country, I can see why you're so confused on the subject of Obama’s Eligibility and "Natural Born Citizen". I also see how little you've changed in three years. But in time, I'll point you to some studies done by the Bush Administration and more recently by Gallup as to why opening up the borders is a BAD IDEA. It obviously would cause A LOT more problems than is seen by the average and experimenting Progressive, Libertarian, Bull Moose or whatever you're calling yourself these days. No worries, I won't hold your youth and inexperience against you. Hopefully Bryant doesn't either. If I'm ever in Atlanta, and need to file a personal injury or workman's comp suit, I'll give him a holler. In the meantime, you may want to spend less time blogging on the clock, and instead either help your clients or spend your free time perusing HRS §338, §538 and Hawaii Family Court Rules. You still have much to learn, young grasshopper. I suggest you read ALL of it, as well as the AG findings, and not just the portions that suit your sophistry. In closing, I know you may long for the good ol' days, but hitching your wagon to weak-d!ck Obama is NOT gonna get you there! As you'll soon find out in the week & months ahead, YOU'LL be throwing him under the bus quicker than he did Van Jones. You and the rest of your ilk really need to pick your political allies a little more prudently Obama's causing more long-term political damage than short-term political gain to "the cause". |
That does NOT makes sense to me???
WHAT?! Surely the inconsistency below is as a result of a fat-fingered
mistake by Siddharth Velamoor in 2008 when applying for various firms
after graduation. There's NO REASON to suspect wrong-doing ...
especially with his concurrent studies in London & Slovakia, while also
enrolled at Columbia ... < /sarc>
Siddharth Velamoor |
|
Columbia University, J.D. |
Comenius University School of Law, Bratislava, Slovakia, 2008, J.D. |
????? |
London School of Economics |
Dartmouth College, A.B. |
Dartmouth College, 2004, A.B. |
http://www.martindale.com/Siddharth-Velamoor/33735949-lawyer.htm |
It only makes sense when you realize that these colleges are members of the Global Public Policy Network, the Utrecht Network, and other Exchange networks, and have a myriad of student and faculty Foreign Exchange Programs for students to partake in but NOT necessarily report on resumes and/or candidate applications. I mean, come on, why would anyone have a problem with a junior partner or law clerk attending a college that required mandatory courses espousing ?!ALSO, it may be why no one seems to remember Obama at Columbia University and few remember him at Harvard. In Siddharth Velamoor's case, it means he potentially lied on his Law Clerk application and elsewhere, which may be a BIG problem with Judge Carter. In Obama's case, it's possibly one of the reasons he's hiding his college transcripts, which would reveal such things as his Coursework and any Exchange Programs overseas in which he may have participated in the 80s and early 90s. |
Well Kookoo-Loco de Mensos, did allow himself to be distracted and did defend the Eagle Scout who had his knife in his car.
Maybe in your world you think corruption in courts is great. Most judges feel they are there to protect citizens, not undermine them.
What corruption do you see?
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