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Defend Our Freedoms Foundation | Oct. 11.2009 | Dr. Orly Taitz

[mlo]

"You just contradicted the entire argument of the antibirthers. It used to be that antibirthers were in the mainstream and birthers were fringe kooks."

That's not the "entire argument" of the anti-birthers. The argument of the anti-birthers are that the birthers have their facts wrong.

"Now you’re saying birthers are the conformists while antibirthers are cutting edge."

Nope, I said nothing remotely like that. I said, if my interest was following the crowd then *when posting on birther threads* I'd be a birther. See, because on *birther threads* the crowd is birther and being a contrarian only gets one abused.

[stockpirate]

YOu are all obama trolls.

[Uncle Chip]

So what you’re doing—rather than telling a lie for the sake of a greater good—is lying for the sake of a bigger lie. You’re lying in order to advance the concept of fraud and deceit, and ultimately the culture of death and destruction.

Well Said --

And none of these supposed legal wizards are capable of explaining how a plaintiff seeking to remove a cross from a lonely mountaintop in the Mojave Desert that harms no one can be granted standing for his lawsuit by a Federal Court judge, and yet these eligibility lawsuits in which there is infinitely more at stake are denied standing??? Can you spell "hypocrisy".

[Non-Sequitur]

So what you’re doing—rather than telling a lie for the sake of a greater good—is lying for the sake of a bigger lie. You’re lying in order to advance the concept of fraud and deceit, and ultimately the culture of death and destruction.

Oh bullsh*t. What we are doing is mocking an eminently mock-able Orly Tatiz, the most pea-brained, inept champion any tin-foil bunch ever chose to rally behind. We are trying to point out that by hitching your wagon to that boob you are painting all conservatives, especially the real conservatives, with the same wacko brush. And suggesting that instead of wasting time on this lunacy that you actually look for ways to defeat Obama and his policies. So wave your little troll label all you want and thump your chest and tell youself, "Well I guess I showed them!" I have little or no respect for your opinions of me or anything else, so this indignant post of your's was certainly wasted on me. And I suspect the rest as well.

[jla]

" Oh bullsh*t. What we are doing is mocking an eminently mock-able Orly Tatiz, the most pea-brained, inept champion any tin-foil bunch ever chose to rally behind. We are trying to point out that by hitching your wagon to that boob you are painting all conservatives, especially the real conservatives, with the same wacko brush. And suggesting that instead of wasting time on this lunacy that you actually look for ways to defeat Obama and his policies. So wave your little troll label all you want and thump your chest and tell youself, "Well I guess I showed them!" I have little or no respect for your opinions of me or anything else, so this indignant post of your's was certainly wasted on me. And I suspect the rest as well"

*APPLAUSE*

[parsifal]

From my experience, liquid antacid works best. Elevate head of bed. Drink water as much as possible. I had gall bladder out and since then no problems.

parsy, who can relate

[Victory Rocks]

I'm not going to waist a dime on Oily T**tz and her traveling legal freak show. I'm going to use my hard earned money to advance the conservative movement by sending it to conservative Republican Senate and House candidates for 2010 and to Obama's Republican challenger in 2012.

I hope Sarah Palin is the nominee, but if another Republican gets the nomination they will get my money and my vote because I want to defeat Obama and the Dems the way Reagan did, and that's through the electoral process and by winning the hearts and minds of the American people.

Oily T**tz is a fraud and a kook and I will never accept her as the face of the conservative movement.

You birthers can call me a troll and an Obamabot all you want but these are my views and opinions and I'm damn proud of them.

[parsifal]

Anything can happen in court, true. But I will be very surprised if this turkey of a lawsuit continues. Like I said, in a way, it will provide much amusement if it continues. And, yes there will be an appeal either way.

parsy, who agrees the judge is making his decision as appeal proof as possible

[Pilsner]

So forgery is okay with you.

I know I'll never get this point through to a dyed in the wool Birther, but here goes again, for the benefit of those who just read the posts.

2 + 2 = 4. The sun rises in the East. Eating more calories than you burn will make you fat. Obama is the President.

It doesn't matter if any of those things are, or are not, OK with me. The are true.

I worked against Obama. Do you have any idea how hard it was to for me to volunteer my time and money for John McCain, the sponsor of the hideous McCain-Feingold Bill? But despite my efforts, Obama won. The Electors gave him a majority of their votes. Congress counted their votes, and declared Obama the winner, and he was sworn in. He is the President.

No. I don't believe for a moment that Obama was born in Kenya, in Canada, or in orbit around Rigel 4. But even if he was, and he cheated his way to the Presidency, the Constitution provides that only the Congress can remove him from office.

Now, as we all know, Congress is not going to remove him from office. But the fact that you can't get your way doesn't mean that you can dream up some other way to get him out of office.

[parsifal]

“parsy, who is always controlled by birthers but won’t respond when he’s afraid”

If I don’t respond, its because I’m at work, asleep, or offline. I don’t have any problem when it comes to a good brawl.

Now as to trolls. There is a better case to be made that YOU are a troll. You come on FR and support some wacky *ss lawyer who makes conservatives look pretty kooky to the rest of the universe. Your “evidence” is pathetic to the point of being non-existent. No one has done any homework. Witness the un-edited list of names above, for example. Your Lawyer Queen has presented conflicting Kenyan BCs into evidence.

Now, do I think you are a troll? No. I think you are sincere in your belief. I think you will be broken-hearted when the truth finally comes out, assuming the birther theory isn’t still rattling around 100 years from now.

I am not afraid of arguing with you. My heart is in the right place, plus I work in a field where I know a little something about courts and laws and stuff like that. So I feel real qualified to comment.

All this troll talk is because you birthers can not take the truth. It hurts. Rather than examine your beliefs, it is easier to call us names. People who do this kind of stuff are in DENIAL.

If there is anything to your movement, if there is anything being covered up, you are much better to come out and test the evidence here, than go to court with a mass of undifferentiated garbage and make fools of yourselves.

parsy, who says the truth is what we are all after.

PS: Thanks for making me the first “troll” on your list, but some of the other guys are doing a better job than me. I am working hard to catch up with them.

[Sibre Fan]

"What has she succeeded at to date?"

Parsy, you left out a few notable achievements...

6. She is in FIRST PLACE -- and way ahead of everyone -- in number of Notice of Deficiencies filed against her for errors in pleadings.

7. She is in FIRST PLACE -- for the number of cases lost to date (4/5, one still pending).

8. She is in FIRST PLACE -- for taking the longest amount of time to properly serve her defendants.

9. She is in FIRST PLACE -- for largest number of orders stating that her motions/arguments are frivolous (3 timesh).

10. She shares FIRST PLACE -- for the fastest dismissal of case/denial of motion. (Same day as filed in Florida - twice; 1st place shared with Carl Swensson/AGJ)

11. She shares FIRST PLACE -- for number of of times a Court has found that she violated Rule 11 (1st place shared with John Hemenway).

[Uncle Chip]

But the fact that you can't get your way doesn't mean that you can dream up some other way to get him out of office.

When the facts were lined up against Nixon, he had no choice but to resign. We're lining up the facts. Do you have a problem with that???

[parsifal]

LOL!!!

Here’s some advice for Orly by someone who knows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNYHoI47fw0&feature=related

parsy, who says you will enjoy the 15 seconds

[vikk]

Hilarious.

Victory Rocks, post 247, Pilsner, post 249: Thanks for being voices of reason.

[Pilsner]

We're lining up the facts.

So you admit the lawsuits are merit less, but now claim that they will somehow bring out facts that will lead to Obama's resignation.

I'm glad you are beginning to see the light on the lawsuits. Now as for facts. Innuendo, speculation, conjecture, supposition, and fake Kenyan Birth Certificates, are not facts. No matter how badly you want them to be.

And even if Orly ever stumbled across a fact, Obama will never resign. Nixon quit because somewhere deep down in his Quaker soul, very deep I'll grant you, he knew the difference between right and wrong, knew he had done wrong, and was troubled by it. Obama has never been troubled by a wrong he has done, and is not about to start now.

[Victory Rocks]

Thanks vikk. I don't understand all this legal mumbo jumbo people are debating on this thread, since I'm just an average person and not an attorney, but after watching Oily T**tz interviews on TV and on YouTube I can come to no other conclusion than that she is an attention whore who is willing to sacrifice the conservative movement to get her mug on the tube.

If these birthers want to be convincing then they could at least get a champion who wasn't so whiny and could speak in an intelligent and coherent manner. If Oily T**tz is going to be the face and the voice of the conservative movement then GOD HELP US!

[Uncle Chip]

We're lining up the facts. So you admit the lawsuits are merit less

Leaping to conclusions, are we??? Ever heard of "discovery"???

Obama has never been troubled by a wrong he has done, and is not about to start now.

Another fact, thank you. May we quote you???

[little jeremiah]

Excellent comments.

If any of them weren’t really trolls (and you left out a couple), they’d be a bit concerned and be posting about the harm 0bama is done and what to do about it.

They don’t even attempt to hide who/what they are. That’s the strange thing.

[parsifal]

“Leaping to conclusions, are we??? Ever heard of “discovery”???”

You don’t do discovery to get the facts to file the lawsuit. You have the facts first, then you file the lawsuit. Then you do discovery to get additional proof and documents to back up your claim. But your original claim has to be based on facts, not suspicions.

parsy, who says you are putting your carts before your horses

[parsifal]

Nobody’s hiding nothing because there is nothing to hide. A court suit is NOT about whether you like someone or not. Ever hear of the Salem Witch Trials????? Court is about facts, not suspicions you bunch of goobers!!!

I guess those people who hung those girls in Salem had suspicions that they were flying around on broomsticks, and that they cursed their favorite milk cow and caused somebody’s baby to have diarrhea, but there weren’t a whole lot of facts.

parsy, who says you people need to get off your high horses and start dealing with reality or I may sue some of you on the suspicion that you are really witches and warlocks.