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AdviceLine w/Roy Masters for Tues 10/06/09 (nightly sage advice for the nation
Foundation of Human Understanding ^

Posted on 10/06/2009 8:55:01 PM PDT by whatisthetruth

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I agree that repentance happens when God gives you to repent, just like the Bible verse says “they sought repentance with their tears but God would not give it to them.”

It’s not dependent upon the meditation, though...else every single Christian referred to in the Bible would have never repented, and they obviously did...

Thanks for the ping, Witt.

Ed


21 posted on 10/07/2009 2:16:16 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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It’s not dependent upon the meditation, though...else every single Christian referred to in the Bible would have never repented, and they obviously did...

Thanks ED, always like to hear the mainstream Christian angle of things, well the meditation as I understand it, is just a means to an end, I imagine any sincere seeker can find his way to God's throne by Becoming Still through 'meditative' prayer, Roy says the meditation concept was removed from the Bible at some point in time so maybe the past Christians did utilize it in one form or another to find repentance.

It's obvious today's Christian claimants are missing something profound, this is probably it. Seeing that you are not exactly a proponent of Roy's 'Be Still' meditation, what is your method for reaching this state of being that Roy speaks of, where God can repent you.


22 posted on 10/07/2009 2:38:15 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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I do use that meditation, I just don’t think it’s the only way...

Ed


23 posted on 10/07/2009 10:45:13 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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Oh, didn't know you used Roy's Be Still meditation, guess I can't really stereotype you as a 'mainstream' Christian then. However your quite brief response is not what I expected and I can only surmise you'd rather not discuss it.

However for the record tho I never claimed that Roy's Be Still meditation is the only way to reach the repentance state, I neither see nor hear of anything else out there on the horizon that addresses it the way Roy does.

Most of Christianity tells its adherents they have to repent, that seems to be in error, they should be telling them they have to BE repented and the process by which that can happen.

24 posted on 10/07/2009 5:05:38 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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Oh, I wasn’t brief because I didn’t want to discuss it, I was brief because I had to go to work on a file on a project I’m working on! I could have waited 15 minutes to answer in greater depth, I suppose...

As far as ways to be repented...I’m no expert by any means, but I think just earnestly seeking God and God’s will, and praying without doubt because “a man who prays and doubts is double-minded” will bring the Lord to view your seeking Him favorably.

I am indeed a mainstream Christian. Throughout history many Christian authors have written about ways of seeking God, I just see that meditation as being one of them.

I’m not a fundamentalist Christian, but I am mainstream.

I also don’t see any method better than that meditation. I don’t agree with Roy Masters in several crucial areas but I have seen with my own eyes that when I practice that it “snaps” me back to reality, out of the fog of my thoughts, imaginations, lusts, envies, etc. and in that reality I sense God clearer.

I’m going to the Y now to exercise, talk t’ya when I get back!

Ed


25 posted on 10/07/2009 6:25:38 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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