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The Island of Dr. Fukino - Bizarre Statements on Obama's origins
PA Times | 7/29/09 | Pissant

Posted on 07/29/2009 8:52:01 PM PDT by pissant

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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
That is my thinking exactly.

The public has a right to know exactly who it was who authorized her to make this public declaration. This is because the public has right to know whether she broke the law.

Unless she got proper authorization from Obama, she violated state laws and should be relieved of her position as the head of the Department of Health.

61 posted on 07/30/2009 4:07:25 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: pissant

Please see MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT with Janice Okubo ON Monday, July 27, that led to the release of the latest Press Release verifying Obama is a NBC and Hawaiian Born.

I think you will find them VERY interesting. And let me know what you think.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2304218/posts

And then see my other interesting post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2304248/posts


62 posted on 07/30/2009 4:13:13 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: BP2

I sent this to Ms. Okubo this morning:
Ms. Okubo-

Under the Uniform Information Practices Act of the State of Hawaii, “...the people are vested with the ultimate decision-making power. Government agencies exist to aid the people in the formation and conduct of public policy. Opening up the government processes to public scrutiny and participation is the only viable and reasonable method of protecting the public’s interest. Therefore the legislature declares that it is the policy of this State that the formation and conduct of public policy—the discussions, deliberations, decisions, and action of government agencies—shall be conducted as openly as possible.”

Please send me an electronic copy of the written criteria, that must be satisfied, by which the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health determines that a person, whose vital records she has statutory authority over, is a natural-born American citizen.

Please send me an electronic copy of any written communications between the Hawaii Department of Health and Barack Obama or anyone claiming to represent Barack Obama concerning Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, certificate of live birth, certification of live birth, and/or supplementary birth certificate or certification of live birth from Jan. 1, 2008 through July 29, 2009.

Please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s SUPPLEMENTARY BIRTH CERTIFICATE on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

If you have no confirmation on any or all of the above, please send me that, too.

Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.


63 posted on 07/30/2009 4:45:51 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: pissant

Pissant-

This is the FULL request I made to Ms. Okubo this morning:

Ms. Okubo-

Under the Uniform Information Practices Act of the State of Hawaii, “...the people are vested with the ultimate decision-making power. Government agencies exist to aid the people in the formation and conduct of public policy. Opening up the government processes to public scrutiny and participation is the only viable and reasonable method of protecting the public’s interest. Therefore the legislature declares that it is the policy of this State that the formation and conduct of public policy—the discussions, deliberations, decisions, and action of government agencies—shall be conducted as openly as possible.”

Please send me an electronic copy of the written criteria, that must be satisfied, by which the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health determines that a person, whose vital records she has statutory authority over, is a natural-born American citizen.

Please send me an electronic copy of any written communications between the Hawaii Department of Health and Barack Obama or anyone claiming to represent Barack Obama concerning Mr. Obama’s birth certificate, certificate of live birth, certification of live birth, and/or supplementary birth certificate or certification of live birth from Jan. 1, 2008 through July 29, 2009.

Please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s SUPPLEMENTARY BIRTH CERTIFICATE on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARRY H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. SOETORO’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

Also, please send me digital and written confirmation that the Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, has personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has BARACK H. DUNHAM’S VITAL RECORD(S) on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

If you have no confirmation on any or all of the above, please send me that, too.

Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.


64 posted on 07/30/2009 4:49:03 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly
MissTickly, thank you for trying to get to the truth. They're 6 hrs behind EST in Hawaii -- hopefully she'll answer when she gets in.

Here's another request:

Can you please forward the current version of Hawaii Administrative Rules, Chapter 117 (Title 11) of the Vital Statistics, Registration & Records Office?

If Chapter 117 is STILL under review, please forward an electronic copy of the old Public Health Regulations Chapters 8, 8A, and 8B of the Administrative Rules for the Vital Statistics, Registration & Records Office.

These rules have been offline FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.

Office of Health Status Monitoring

117

Vital Statistics, Registration & Records. Converting from Public Health Regulations Chapters 8, 8A, and 8B
to Administrative Rules.

 

New Rules in Process
Alvin Onaka
(808) 586-4600


65 posted on 07/30/2009 5:44:27 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Done. If you would also like to help, here is Janice Okubo’s email address:

janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov

And this is what I just sent her:

Ms. Okubo-

Under the Uniform Information Practices Act of the State of Hawaii, “...the people are vested with the ultimate decision-making power. Government agencies exist to aid the people in the formation and conduct of public policy. Opening up the government processes to public scrutiny and participation is the only viable and reasonable method of protecting the public’s interest. Therefore the legislature declares that it is the policy of this State that the formation and conduct of public policy—the discussions, deliberations, decisions, and action of government agencies—shall be conducted as openly as possible.”

Please send me an electronic written version of Hawaii Administrative Rules, Chapter 117 (Title 11) of the Vital Statistics, Registration & Records Office.

If Chapter 117 is STILL under review, please send me an electronic written version of the old Public Health Regulations Chapters 8, 8A, and 8B of the Administrative Rules for the Vital Statistics, Registration & Records Office.

These rules have been offline FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.


66 posted on 07/30/2009 5:53:07 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly
I'm looking at CHAPTER 92F, UNIFORM INFORMATION PRACTICES ACT now
http://www.state.hi.us/oip/uipa.html#92F12

I wondered if they had something similar to a federal FOIA request. Thanks for finding this.

The Act says “each agency upon request by any person shall make government records available for inspection and copying during regular business hours.”

What is a legitimate turn around time for a response? A day, week, month?

67 posted on 07/30/2009 6:07:39 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Having some history with Ms. Okubo—she could answer this one today. Unless there is some red tape she has to go through because it is a formal ask.

I’ll make an informal ask, too. Just in case.


68 posted on 07/30/2009 6:09:29 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: BP2

And I didn’t find it. h/t to Steveh, as I recall.


69 posted on 07/30/2009 6:17:30 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

BUMP. Keep up the good work


70 posted on 07/30/2009 6:46:44 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Good points - the statement is less than what it first appears to be.


71 posted on 07/30/2009 7:36:38 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: MHGinTN

Well done.


72 posted on 07/30/2009 7:41:41 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: skeptoid
Always been, actually.

So, is Hawai'i a contraction? Or is the apostrophe "i" supposed to show possession of some sort?

73 posted on 07/30/2009 7:42:41 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: IYAS9YAS; skeptoid

Got my answer further down with respect to emphasis on pronunciation. Why the apostrophe, though? Why not a hyphen?


74 posted on 07/30/2009 8:00:06 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

"I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school." -- Barack Obama, Dreams of My Father

Of course, he never did indicate WHERE the birth certificate was issued, did he?


In my attempt to learn more about the Hawaiian birth certificate program, I came across the book, "In the name of Hawaiians" by Rona Tamiko Halualani. In the book, the author interviews many Hawaiians who voice frustration with the Hawaiian Health Office and the DHHL for sloppy record keeping of Vital Statistics. Here's an excerpt:

Missing Hawaiian birth certificate - excerpt from In the Name of Hawaiians


What if there is a HINT of truth to CNN's claim that there is no birth certificate for Mr. Obama? Let's say the state of Hawaii, with formal permission of Mr. Obama, releases a statement that says something like:

"Due to clerical oversight in years past, the originally-filed birth certificate of Barack H. Obama II has been lost. In accordance with state policies and procedures, the Certification of Live Birth is the birth certificate of record for Barack H. Obama II."

It would be awfully convenient for Mr. Obama, but true as far as the state of Hawaii is concerned in this example.

IF something like that were to happen, what would be the next step in confirming Mr. Obama's qualifications to hold office as president?


75 posted on 07/30/2009 8:36:01 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Zack Attack
It's not muslimizing. The apostrophe represents a glottal stop to aid in pronunciation and natives of Hawai'i use it quite frequently as do many other languages in transliteration. That doesn't mean "Hawaii" is less acceptable.

I knew somebody was going to post gobbledygo'ok like this.

I've been around a long time, champ. There are definitely more apostrophes around now than when I was growing up.

76 posted on 07/30/2009 8:44:57 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: BP2

Too late. Fukino said she viewed the original BC back in october. The firestorm this would cause would be intense.


77 posted on 07/30/2009 8:47:02 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Agreed. She said “original birth certificate” last year and re-stated it again this week.

That’s part of why I want to see the latest version of their office “rulebook,” the “Hawaii Administrative Rules, Chapter 117” (Title 11), Vital Statistics, Registration & Records Office.

I want to see what the current definition of “original birth certificate” is, in addition to seeing the meaning of:

“Accepted by STATE Registrar”
... vs ...
“Filed by Registrar”


78 posted on 07/30/2009 8:55:58 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Actually, she meticulously avoided restating “birth certificate” this week. Because the original BC does not show what other vital records show, she used the term “vital records”


79 posted on 07/30/2009 8:57:41 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Here’s a theory I submitted on another board I frequent. I think it’s about time for statement from Obama. Maybe next week?

“Between Lou Dobbs, Roy Blunt and several others, I think it’s safe to say that it is not just the “lunatic fringe” that think Obama should end this mess. My prediction is that on his “birthday”, I think it’s August 4, he will tell the story that changes the world. He will be proven to be an American, Natural Born Citizen, but lots of people won’t like the deception. Unless of course you believe his Grandmother who said he was born in Kenya. Then all hell will break loose.”


80 posted on 07/30/2009 9:00:28 AM PDT by stevestras
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