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Police justify shooting, killing 12-pound miniature dachshund in self-defense
Pet News Examiner ^ | 12 June, 2009 | Helena Sung

Posted on 06/16/2009 11:04:00 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: papertyger
"Foolishly, you seem to expect us to go along with the weak philosophical excuses you accept implicitly."

if that means the law, then you are absolutely correct, my FRiend.

241 posted on 06/17/2009 1:02:27 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
if that means the law, then you are absolutely correct

Departmental policy is NOT law.

242 posted on 06/17/2009 1:08:27 PM PDT by papertyger (A difference that makes no difference is no difference)
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To: papertyger
exactly. that is what i wrote in the last 2 lines of post 233.

most dept guidelines that deal with use of force/arrest/interrogation are based on the state and federal statutes.

243 posted on 06/17/2009 1:11:22 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

Oh, aren’t we a pisspot full of ourselves.

Why so touchy? You a cop?

The facts, my dear Watson, are that some aggro punk who wears a uniform and carries a gun killed a dog attacking him. And you defend him.

Man, you know, we never saw those pictures of dachsunds at AbuGhraib.


244 posted on 06/17/2009 1:24:01 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: thefactor

No I wasn’t the guy who asked if you were a news anchor.

“i am a great cop who helps a lot more people than i hurt. and i have been around here a LOT longer than you. so relax.”

Around where?


245 posted on 06/17/2009 1:24:10 PM PDT by bobaloobob (bobaloobob)
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To: papertyger

Shoulda pinged you to my last post.

When the US Army wants to petrify prisoners, they start with German Shepherds and then to instigate real terror, they bring in the dachsunds.


246 posted on 06/17/2009 1:26:26 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: swarthyguy

Dood, you don’t know what a “bad dog” is until you’ve experienced the inscrutable, seething, oriental malice that is the Shih-Tzu.


247 posted on 06/17/2009 1:35:39 PM PDT by papertyger (A difference that makes no difference is no difference)
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To: This Just In
Look, if you’ve got to shoot a small dog, shoot a Chihuahua, not a Dachshund.

When I said drop the chalupa I meant put down your sandwich not shoot the dog.

248 posted on 06/17/2009 4:37:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: dragnet2
To be honest, I am totally pro-law enforcement,

I consider myself a law-and-order person, which requires that I oppose police who flout the law. The Fifth Amendment forbids the government (and by extension the police) from depriving people of property without due process. While it can't forbid truly accidental damage to property, it does require that the government (cops) take at least reasonable efforts to avoid it. Given how many other people manage to deal with strange dogs without shooting them and without getting injured, it's pretty clear that a lot of cops make no effort to avoid "having" to shoot dogs.

249 posted on 06/17/2009 9:31:29 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: papertyger

“Those inside the law industry embrace lying, intimidation, duplicity, and prevarication as requirements of their profession. Those of us who do not live by such low standards rightly recoil from such practices”

Bingo. We have a winner!

Exhibit A: Photo-enforcement in Arizona. Public LEO mouthpieces parrot the ‘it’s for safety’ mantra but when one peruses the AZ LEO forums the overwhelming cop chatter holds that the GD cameras are for revenue collection only, that traffic stops by commissioned officers can check for real criminal activity, and that the cameras provide no public safety value in terms of accident response, or response to other on highway crimes of a non-speeding nature.

Oh, but there’s more. The real gripes get down to ‘professional courtesy’ slipping away. An LEO speeding home in his private vehicle is just as subject to a bogus due-process-ignoring ‘notice of violation’ as any other submitizen because the poor public servant can’t flash his badge to a TBL buddy and get a free pass. Then there’s the bureaucratic union concern about automation ‘taking’ away cops’ jobs.

I’m pro-peace officer, but with the recent use of Tazers not as self defense tools but as remote control pain compliance torture devices (with potentially lethal outcomes), it’s petty obvious that our public servants hold those who delegate their authority in contempt and disdain. A like response is indicated and justified for folks who use cute euphemisms such as ‘ride the lightening’ when describing torturing adolescents and little old ladies with attitudes.

Sorry professional law enforcement, but as long as you don’t police your own of these miscreants, and actively defend this BS behind Nuremburgesque ‘just following policy’ excuses your profession is worthy of contempt and disdain.

Let’s not forget that officers can lie to their public as an ‘investigative tool’, but woe unto a submitizen who mis-states something to a badge bandit.

Rabies? Hell, might as well shoot any salivary-gland-packing and dentiferous homo-sapien within bite distance who might have HIV. And there are toddlers who have been born with HIV. “If it saves just one officer’s life...” So there’s another good reason not to smile at the man.


250 posted on 06/18/2009 10:29:04 PM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: dragnet2

I am a resident of Danville, VA and I, like many of my fellow Danvillians have been shocked by this event and the way it has been handled. I don’t think we’ll feel safe until this cop is fired, as well as the police chief. A city councilman has finally begun the task of investigating this and I hope that the family - and by extension, the rest of us - will see some justice. Pictures of this cop (apparently taken in Iraq) are online and seeing them explains a lot!


251 posted on 06/19/2009 6:37:05 AM PDT by alyssum101
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To: alyssum101

Dig deep into this LEOs background. You can bet the rent there is something there. This guy isn’t normal.


252 posted on 06/19/2009 8:00:46 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: thefactor

You sent that post to the wrong Person...I don’t know who you intended it for...but I’m NOT that person.I don’t see any one on that thread that you could have intended it for.

bobaloobob


253 posted on 06/19/2009 3:02:42 PM PDT by bobaloobob (bobaloobob)
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