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Patriots MUST Reclaim the GOP Now Or Lose Their Nation (VANITY!)
Canada Free Press ^ | Monday, April 13, 2009 | JB Williams

Posted on 04/13/2009 6:56:55 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

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To: timestax

LOL... Pirates top all other headlines today, but not this one.


61 posted on 04/13/2009 8:37:12 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Please. Surely you can do better than that. Why, throughout this thread you've been a laugh a minute, insulting veterans and those who were foolish enough to express an opinion that differed with yours. Just a barrel of laughs.
62 posted on 04/13/2009 8:40:22 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Indeed! The point is, if we lack the power to make it well, what makes you think we have the power to replace it, when there is NO evidence to support any such notion?

What causes a company that falls into bankruptcy, to once again rise to prominence? The GOP may be so infested with termites that the structure would not hold. Conservatives are fumbling about looking for leadership and we give them McCain? I was in the same boat until he announced Palin as his running mate. My choice was Thompson, but the failure of our party to maintain a pure primary cost us dearly. We would be under entirely different leadership if Fred were our nominee. I truly wonder how many dyed-in-the-wool Republicans stayed on November 4th?

As I mentioned earlier, let the DNC hyenas have the GOP corpse. The lion that happens to be some yet to be named party holds the potential to decimate the scavengers.

You are quite correct in that it may be our best salvation as a party to resuscitate the GOP, but to fail to ask the question as to whether she is still viable or not, would be our greatest failure.

63 posted on 04/13/2009 8:42:26 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
An excellent suggestion, however, the Sixteenth Amendment is a bloodletting that no nation can survive. It must end.

The Seventeenth is much more difficult to explain to people even in a state where Hollywood money is electing Senator Bozo's-evil-brother.

I refer, of course, to Al Franken.

64 posted on 04/13/2009 8:43:39 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Our Last Best Hope: REPEAL THE 16th AMENDMENT!)
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To: PlainOleAmerican; rabscuttle385; EdReform
I agree this needs to happen, but if it is going to, something needs to be done about this, and fast.

Conservatives will not support a party who is allowing it self to be defined by people like this. Not when they are constantly being denegrated...I'm sorry.
65 posted on 04/13/2009 8:46:41 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

4 later


66 posted on 04/13/2009 8:47:57 AM PDT by Blogger (It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. - Ben Franklin)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Great article. This part got my attention:

The Patriots Top Priorities
As I see it, these should be the top priorities for patriots, once they regain control of their party.
• Stop redefining “conservative.” Our nation’s Founders knew it only as, “Preservative; having power to preserve in a safe or entire state, or from loss, waste or injury.” This is the ONLY definition that matters.
• Reset the party platform to zealously support and defend founding constitutional principles and values.
• Choose new “conservative” leadership for the “conservative” party.
• Fix the broken nomination process by scheduling all national primaries to begin in “conservative” states instead of left leaning states. Of course, allow only official GOP members to vote in national primaries. NO more open primaries whereby Democrats can send us another John McCain in liberal states, leaving nobody to vote for by the time GOP strongholds across the country have a say.
• Weed out liberal faux conservatives like Specter, Snowe, Collins and McCain, who do not support and defend the constitutional republic and too often sell their votes to the left, for a pittance in federal handouts for their home districts.
• Set party term limits, if not congressional term limits, so that fresh patriotic Conservatives cannot become corrupt career Republicans in the future.
Make the Tea Party Movement Real! – Painting signs and marching in circles like liberals is better than doing nothing at all, but if Tea Party protestors continue to fund this assault on America by continuing to pay the taxes they are protesting, their protests will be completely meaningless. Conservatives have become a paper tiger… They protest all of it, but take real action against none of it! This must change immediately!


67 posted on 04/13/2009 8:48:13 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe

and this:

“Options Still on the Table
Although many conservatives seem to have already thrown in the towel on their GOP and their nation, the fact is, they cannot afford to throw in the towel on either.
Only three options for saving America remain on the table today, and only two of those options are peaceful…
The Political Option – Patriots can peacefully regain control of their party and right that ship in order to right their nation.
The Peaceful Public Resistance – Patriots can defund the current assault on America peacefully, if they unite by the millions in a full scale tax-revolt, in which they not only take to the streets in active protest, but stop funding the evil as well.
The Violent Alternative – If the two peaceful options are allowed to expire, or fail to deliver the necessary result, then only a violent Second Amendment option will remain.”


68 posted on 04/13/2009 8:48:58 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe

finally, this:

“Let’s be very honest with ourselves at this important moment in American history…
If we lack the power to take back our own party, then we certainly lack the power to take back our entire country.
A Tea Party is just a party, if we continue to fund the evil, just as if we fully support it.
If patriots lack the backbone to seize control of their own political party, or stop funding that which they claim to oppose, then they will also lack the backbone to take up arms against the enemy when that time arrives.
If patriots seeking to conserve American freedom no longer have the courage or good sense to defend freedom by peaceful means, then they no longer have what it takes to remain free.
I feel sorry for Americans too foolish to grasp this reality… I feel even worse for those true patriots, who will in the end, stand alone in defense of freedom, as their fellow Americans sit silent and watch their nation slip into the secular socialist abyss!”

I hope the author of this column is wrong, but I suspect they are right.


69 posted on 04/13/2009 8:50:36 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe
Conservatives have become a paper tiger… They protest all of it, but take real action against none of it! This must change immediately!

Unless and until we as stallworth individuals, are willing to sacrifice our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor, we are doomed to a future of our own making.

http://boortz.com/more/declaration_of_independence.html

70 posted on 04/13/2009 8:54:10 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: rjsimmon

VERY well thought out post my friend... Here’s my opinion.

“What causes a company that falls into bankruptcy, to once again rise to prominence?”

New leadership and restructuring.

“The GOP may be so infested with termites that the structure would not hold. Conservatives are fumbling about looking for leadership and we give them McCain?”

Maybe? - But this was done by “old leadership” without any “restructuring.” For the record, the same lame primary process that delivered this result, remains intact for the 2010 mid-term, and will deliver the same results. So, change (new leadership and restructuring) must happen before 2010 mid-terms.

“My choice was Thompson, but the failure of our party to maintain a pure primary cost us dearly.”

Mine too, and AMEN! This is what must change, and it will only change with new leadership. Reagan returned a failing party to prominence. One man can make the difference, if it is the right man.

“We would be under entirely different leadership if Fred were our nominee. I truly wonder how many dyed-in-the-wool Republicans stayed on November 4th?”

Agreed! The fact is, conservatives were very divided on Nov. 4th, and they remain very divided today, as is demonstrated over and over again on FR threads. This too, must change.

“As I mentioned earlier, let the DNC hyenas have the GOP corpse.”

This is where we part company. The GOP is sick, but not yet dead. I have searched high and low for a viable 3rd party capable of replacing the GOP and it does not exist. If you think it does, show it to me?

NO 3rd party can be erected and funded to compete with the GOP in time to salvage this nation under extreme attack. The mere effort to do so will only further weaken the GOP, opening the door even wider for leftist success.

Communists were smart enough to seize control of the DNC. Why aren’t conservative smart enough to seize control of the GOP?

“You are quite correct in that it may be our best salvation as a party to resuscitate the GOP, but to fail to ask the question as to whether she is still viable or not, would be our greatest failure.”

These are all valid and vital questions which deserve honest assessment. I have given you my assessment...


71 posted on 04/13/2009 9:00:24 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Understood...

But state sovereignty means nothing without states rights, and states rights only exist when the states have equal representation in DC, none of which has been the case since the passage of the 17th. (passed along with the 16th)

Both should be repealed ASAP...


72 posted on 04/13/2009 9:03:07 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: bamahead

Exactly... Yet so long as they leave these fools in control of their party, it is the only representation they have.


73 posted on 04/13/2009 9:04:14 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: BuffaloJack
Capitalism is a word made up by Karl Marx to demonize Free Enterprise.

Excellent point.

74 posted on 04/13/2009 9:07:22 AM PDT by Skid Marx
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Mine too, and AMEN! This is what must change, and it will only change with new leadership. Reagan returned a failing party to prominence. One man can make the difference, if it is the right man.

I have heard, and full well believe, that it takes a Carter to get a Reagan.

These are all valid and vital questions which deserve honest assessment. I have given you my assessment...

True, can you also posit a recommendation?
You have given a great thread that has elicited quite a few comments. Draft your manifesto and let us take stabs at it. When you look in the mirror tomorrow morning, you may be looking at the next GOP leader.

75 posted on 04/13/2009 9:09:52 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: rjsimmon

I agree with every single word of the subject column, down to the last letter.

I stopped calling myself “republican” years ago, as the term had become synonymous with “lazy, self-indulgent, whiny, spineless loser.”

I am often tempted to drop the name “conservative” as well, because today’s conservatives don’t seem as smart as today’s communists. They forgot how to win...

As for foundational beliefs, I’m with our nations Founders. Our founding principles and values are as good today as they were in 1776, and they are neither complicated or confusing.

I hold dear the unalienable rights endowed by our Creator, Life, individual Liberty and the right to individual define and pursue, not collectively confiscate and redistribute, Happiness.

If the written (not imaginary) Constitution provides for it, I support it. If it doesn’t, I oppose it...

Too simple?

The most complex problems require the simplest of solutions.

Freedom is not only for Ivy League morons who seek to redefine it to their advantage, on behalf of folks too ignorant to read or comprehend our founding documents.

Freedom is for the average man and woman, and as such, the concept can be fairly interpreted by a third grader. There is NO need for a SCOTUS interpretation of freedom!


76 posted on 04/13/2009 9:24:23 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
I concur, yet I have one nit to pick:

If the written (not imaginary) Constitution provides for it, I support it. If it doesn’t, I oppose it...

The concept of the Constitution is that of establishment, with the Bill of Rights being the limitations imposed on the autograph.

This may be what you have in mind, you simply came off elsewise.

77 posted on 04/13/2009 9:28:04 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The only thing that will save the country is:

Cntl+Alt+Del.

Few have the stomach for it.

78 posted on 04/13/2009 9:31:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Here, we just have to boot out the rhino's and take back the party. If we can't do that, there is no way we can build another party from the ground up in 2 years. Even Harpers reformers took 10 years, and it wasn't easy.

That's a pretty big 'just', but I believe it's our only salvation. Give up, split into two or more parties then prepare for a socialist majority and all its ghoulish consequences for the rest of our lives. Nothing worth doing is ever easy, the only way to win at anything is to match, then exceed your opponent in the effort required. Intra-party reform is much more durable than shaky coalitions salvaged from a major fracture, which don't even apply in our system anyway. Somehow we need to reverse the leftward migration of the 'center'.

79 posted on 04/13/2009 9:39:01 AM PDT by Skid Marx
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To: rjsimmon

Actually, I might have a different take on this subject.

The “Bill of Right’s” (first Ten Amendments) were only negotiated into place as a means of appeasing some who were not yet ready to fully support the Constitution itself. Some desired more specific additional protections against federal power over certain specific freedoms.

In my opinion, this act alone is responsible for making the entire document confusing for many.

The Constitution itself was the entire “contract” for federal powers, between the governed and the government. As such, every word was written to limit the power and scope of government to only that which was “contracted.” It was a “positive” contract, assigning ONLY specific duties and powers to carry out those duties.

But when the Bill of Right’s entered the picture, it become a positive and negative contract, assigning specific powers on one hand, then withholding specific powers on the other.

Ever since then, people have debated whether the document was a “positive” assignment of limited duties and powers, or a “negative” protection of individual rights.

The Framers did not want a Bill of Right’s, recognizing that some would interpret individual Right’s to be limited only to those enumerated in the Bill. Thus, the ninth and tenth amendments, which attempt to dispel any such interpretation.

Today, 50% of Americans think the First Amendment provides for an unspoken “separation of church and state,” while the other 50% think it means exactly what it says, free religious exercise and expression.

In my opinion, the Bill of Right’s allowed this debate, made even more confusing by all of the unconstitutional amendments passed since.

Back to basic, I say!

(In a hurry, please excuse any typo’s)


80 posted on 04/13/2009 9:43:57 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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