Posted on 03/02/2009 11:01:36 AM PST by Islaminaction
Americans went to war in Iraq to protect America from the terrorists. The Iraqis fought that same enemy to protect theirs. They were fighting for Iraq, a nation created some 4,500 years ago, and not some Islamic country that you claim “we created” in 2003.
To you, one bad apple, like Osama, spoils the whole bunch but I, for one, am very grateful for our muslim allies.
Are you happy that we won in Iraq? Just curious.
Wait, wait! I already know your answer: All of them because they are muslim.
Being against the bigotry of Islam does not make one a bigot. I already said I do not want a holy war, I want an end to Muslim immigration. But you keep on making things up.
You call me a bigot but here you are going to bat for the most bigoted ideology on the planet. Yea, good work. In case you did not notice Christians are already being persecuted in the Islamic world. It has been going on for 1400 years.
Have you been alseep for the past several years? Obama is the only problem? lol!! You sound like a DUer. Did you ever hear of Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic resitance and the Muslim Brotherhood which makes AQ like minor leaguers?
When you say one bad apple you clearly show you are are ignorant on the issue. Did Bin Laden plot the Mumbai attacks, or 7/7, or the Scotland attacks?
Tell me what our “Muslim” allies are doing here in America
I showed you there were 35 training camps here.
Muslims in numerous states spewing hatred towards Jews.
Thousands of American Muslims attending pro-Hezbollah rallies.
80% of the Mosques here are Saudi Wahhabi Mosques, yet no protests against them. Where are all the “moderates” protesting against this?
To me creating an Islamic country while bankrupting our children’s futures is not a victory.
It is known that there are over 2000 Hezbollah agents here already, Muslim Brotherhood members and even AQ members and supporters who are US citizens. Fighting them over there and then allowing them to set up shop over here is pretty senseless.
Sorry, but you have yet to prove any of your left-wing Saddam-loving talking points. All you can do is cite fiery rhetoric. Go look in the mirror.
The Mullahs and leading regime are the enemy and they get plenty of support from Iranian citizens. Save the fantasy that all Iranians love us. I have relatives from there and the Iranian revolution is not coming.
Interesting how you go from Osama being the “one” bad apple to more bad apples in Iran. Natural allies, yea the Islamic world just loves America....
The Muslim world did not turn against the terrorists. They are still all over the place.
Saving the world....LOL!! You have no idea what these people have in store for us. This war is forever.
Are you a natural liar, or is it just part time? I never said that I loved Saddam, I said I was happy he was dead. I said I am against nation building.
I posted links with facts which is a lot more than I can say for you.
You know the facts which you love to ignore.
Like the actions of Muslims here, the Saudis, Muslims voting terrorists into office.
Right try and make me the bad guy because you cannot face the issue. Only problem with that stupid comparison is that I am not looking to impose a set of barbaric laws on the world. Laws that are part of Islam.
I didn't go to bat for Islam. I stood up for our muslim allies while you felt it necessary to bash our allies and defend the honor of our sworn enemy and genocidal monster, Saddam.
Let's say that you were the president on 9-11. What would you have done differently then what Bush did?
They are supported by a lot more than Iran. The Muslim Brotherhood has over 20% of the seats in the Egyptian govt.
You clearly went to bat for Islam, so save the backtrack.
Show me where I defended Saddam..show me, back yourself up for once and stop lying.
The Iraqi people are helping themselves. They should do that. If the Iraqis were so concerned with America they would offer to pay their own way. They have $80 billion and have not offered a dime. They are not going to transform the Islamic world and they do not hate Iran. They just had a meeting with them.
There are bad dictators all over the place, maybe we should free the world and destroy our countries future because we are in debt to the world?
I agreed with Bush on Iraq, that was before I did research on Islam. Research that Bush and co. never bothered to do. Now I think it was a mistake and like I said there is little point of fighting them over there and then embracing sharia loving Muslims here.
If it were up to me we would be drilling here and building nuke plants like France has. They get about 80% of their electricity from them. This way we can get off of Saudi oil, this way we can confront them on the hate they are exporting here.
Ask your Iranian relatives if they consider America the enemy. Ask them if Iranians deserve freedom from the vile clerical regime. Ask them if they will support the mullahs when liberation day comes.
The Iranians can't free themselves because they are oppressed. They will need the help of a superpower to gain their freedom just like Iraq and America did. I hope you stand with freedom and the Iranians when that day comes because, you know what? Muslims deserve freedom, democracy and prosperity too.
I never said one good word about Saddam, so STOP LYING. All you can see is left vs. right, when in fact both parties are a disgrace to America.
The Mullahs have major support there and who has the power is what matters. Unlike you my relatives despise Islam, because they see what it has brought to Iran.
Muslim deserves what they do to help themselves. We do not owe them anything and it is IMPOSSIBLE to go from Islamic country to Islamic country. We have no money and sooner or later the world is going to cut us off. Muslims have allowed the hate to spread from the ME to the West. They do not deserve a dime of my money being spent on them.
Islam is against democracy and going into Iraq did not change anything else in the ME.
Islam is why they are oppressed. Do you actually know anything about Islam or are you just a blind Bush supporter?
Did it ever cross your mind that not all people want to live as we do?
We are not going to attack Iran, get a clue.
Pining for the days of Christian favored status in Saddam's Iraq, wanting genocide on all Muslims, faulting Bush for freeing millions, ending genocide, protecting America and saving the world from a thousand years of darkness, and not wanting to help build a nation because you were fine with the terrorist tyranny it replaced not only makes you a bad guy, but sort of a democrat as well.
More lies and that is the best that you can do. I am not a leftist. I voted for Bush and unlike you I am mature enough to admit he was a RINO.
I guess the people who died in Mumbai and the UK do not count. Do you actually read the news? Do you see what is happening in Gaza.....oh but you implied the war is over. LOL!!
So you are more concerned with Muslims, Muslims who are oppressing Christians. Now that is leftist stupidity.
You see unlike you, I have studied the issue for years and have dedicated years to speaking out with facts, which are much more useful they your wishful thinking.
Here are some more facts.
Hezbollah picked up more seats in the Lebanese govt.
Hamas won an election.
The Muslim Brotherhood has over 20% of the seats in the Egyptian govt.
Swat Pakistan just caved into the Taliban and allowed sharia law.
Turkey voted in an Islamist party and their opinion of the US is on the decline big time.
The UK is under constant threat by their Muslim population.
Chechnya was just allowed sharia law.
35 Islamic terror camps in our backyard.
This is not protecting the world from darkness.
The list goes on and on.....and all you can say is Iraq and baseless comments like we saved the world.
The same problem with the Islamic world has been going on for 1400 years and you are foolish enough to think that the infidels are going to change what Muslims believe in.
SHOW ME WHERE I CALLED FOR GENOCIDE OR ARE YOU JUST A PATHILOGICAL LIAR?
I SAID I WAS NOT ALRIGHT WITH SADDAM. Can you even stop yourself from lying?
Should we go free the rest of the word, explain where the money will come from.
Explain how being in debt to the world, has bettered our standard of living here.
Have we been attacked since Bush put Saddam out of the terrorism business? Does the world consider us paper tigers anymore like they did the past 50 years? Is Baghdad now the capital of the Caliphate or of the freeist, most pro-democracy and America loving country in the ME?
Why do you think that the Iraqis can't live and prosper in a democracy when all evidence and recent history proves that they can and fought to do so? Why are you convinced that those little brown-skined people aren't evolved enough for democracy and prefer not to live free?
Bush believed that freedom was God's gift to humanity. What person in the world doesn't prefer freedom to slavery?
So while I will give Bush for us not getting attacked. I just listed a bunch of facts. Facts that you cannot refute.
The problem has gotten worse. One more time 35 training camps here in America. Bush did not control our borders, he did not improve our education systems, we owe the world money, he did nothing to get us off Saudi oil and there are terrorist groups here in America. Those are the facts. How many facts will you ignore? Iraq has changed nothing for the better in any other Islamic country.
Iraq is not the freest country in the ME, Israel is. Of course the Iraqis are pro-American now, they need us and the Christians are not free. Democracy means nothing if they vote in Islamic parties.
You said,
Bush believed that freedom was God’s gift to humanity. What person in the world doesn’t prefer freedom to slavery?
If he believed in freedom he would not be best friends with the Saudis. I see you are incapable of actually learning anything and not adult enough to admit any faults of Bush. But people who believe in Islam do not give a damn about our way of life.
Should we go free the rest of the word, explain where the money will come from.
Explain how being in debt to the world, has bettered our standard of living here.
Come on, give an answer. Try and deal with reality.
Yes, Arabs voted for Islamists with their new freedom to vote and look what it got them. They will learn their lesson and vote for secular candidates the next time as the Iraqis just did after realizing their mistake. But to now disenfranchise Arabs because they made a mistake in voting for the wrong people would be like saying that Germans shouldn't be allowed to vote because they once voted for Hitler.
You may claim that you aren't a leftist but you make the same points as they try to make when faulting Bush's strategy in the war. You just rap yours in the Bible. Otherwise, no difference.
Also the Turks that I know do not like Bush because he supported the AKP. The Islamist party who is now in control.
Bush also stands up for the Islamists in Chechnya and the Royal Family. He was full of it.
Defense spending is constitutionally mandated so go nit pick about other expenditures.
Saudi Arabia sides with America, they fight Al Qaeda in their own country. They also supply us with a reliable supply of cheap oil. They are allies and have been longer the any other country in the region bar none. So, enough with your leftist “we should be fighting the Saudis instead” bunk.
By the way, Iraq is the freest pro-american democracy in the Middle East because Israel is located in the Near East, not the ME.
Yes, owing the world endless amounts of money to create an Islamic country is not a good idea. Killing terrorists is one thing, nation building is another.
Trillions of dollars in debt is nitpicking....what a stupid statement.
Saudi Arabia recently released over 1500 AQ members. They signed a deal with them and the deal is that they do not wage jihad in the Arabian Peninsula ONLY. Try and educate yourself on the issue.
The Saudis are the one who are spreading hate across the world. That is a FACT. I have to believe that you are the only one here who does not know that. LOL!! Not surprising though. We kiss their ass because of oil. Can you figure anything out?
Go ask the Christians and women in Iraq how free they are.
Like I said Iraq did not change a thing anywhere else in the world in regards to Islam. Good work on ignoring that Maliki is buddies with Iran.
Funny how when we are handing countries billions of dollars they are always “pro-America”.
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