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Hollister v. Soetoro: Judge Denies Specific Motions in Pending Case
The right side of Life ^ | 2/5/09 | Phil

Posted on 02/05/2009 2:45:47 PM PST by classical artist

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To: lucysmom; Buckhead; hoosiermama; Calpernia
pay more attention to the "legalistic" and technical", their cases wouldn't be rejected over and over again

Your mistake is that one probably cannot say unequivocally whether a copy of a document is authentic without examining the original, but certainly in many cases, one might well be able to point out features that unequivocally show a copied document to be a fraud, if indeed it is that.

Barry's lawyer has said Soetero's computer-scanned document is of sufficient copy quality to judge its authenticity. If you say its authenticity is impossible to assess the original as you suggest would be the case in a court of law, please complain to your client about his lack of transparency.

Anyone can readily find those document specialists' observations by searching the site. I'm not your assistant, to be kept busy by your whims.

Courts decide, legislatures impeach. We can only try to have a reasonable sharing of knowable evidence or facts.

Buckhead turned out to be correct in the same way that a stopped clock is correct twice a day. His observations, however, were not valid.

Now isn't that a revisionist historian at work! It would be a real comedy event to be heard round the world if this site were to become aware of your statement above!

HF

81 posted on 02/08/2009 10:23:14 AM PST by holden
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To: holden
Your mistake is that one probably cannot say unequivocally whether a copy of a document is authentic without examining the original, but certainly in many cases, one might well be able to point out features that unequivocally show a copied document to be a fraud, if indeed it is that.

Not on a scanned image published on the internet.

We can only try to have a reasonable sharing of knowable evidence or facts.

First one must be able to sort speculation from knowledge, and fact from wishful thinking.

Now isn't that a revisionist historian at work! It would be a real comedy event to be heard round the world if this site were to become aware of your statement above!

I've shared my opinion on the subject before on this site.

82 posted on 02/08/2009 10:32:32 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Excuse me for interrupting your flame war, but I was actually correct in my observations. You could look it up.


83 posted on 02/08/2009 3:26:19 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

Glad you showed up to correct the false assertions.


84 posted on 02/10/2009 8:37:00 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: lucysmom
Buckhead turned out to be correct in the same way that a stopped clock is correct twice a day. His observations, however, were not valid.

lucysmom;
Buckhead was right 60 minutes an hour / 24 hours a day.

Dan Rather lost his job over his false claim debunked by Buckhead (in less than 60 minutes - no pun intended)(and supportive evidence).

Regardless of your opinion of accuracy based on a clock - - - - remember this!

This is not going away!

85 posted on 02/10/2009 9:30:05 AM PST by Freeper (Remote Space is not that Remote. If you could drive your car straight up - it's only an hour away.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Berg was on one of the internet talk radio shows last night and said he will amend the complaint on Hollister v. Soetoro (a/k/a/ Obama).


86 posted on 02/10/2009 11:33:57 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: All

Guess what? Ed Hale over at Plains Radio is going to charge $10 a month to use the chat room!!

He said on the chat recently that he was a millionaire, yet he asked for ‘donations’ to run his on line radio. When the bloggers trashed him for that, he quit. Now it’s $10 a month or you get kicked out of the chat room and forum!
What a scam artist!


87 posted on 02/11/2009 3:13:07 PM PST by cyberella
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To: Buckhead
Excuse me for interrupting your flame war, but I was actually correct in my observations. You could look it up.

Hello Buckhead, its nice to meet you.

I stand by my claim.

88 posted on 02/11/2009 6:52:34 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: classical artist

The following is a Radio Interview that I arranged for Orly with Matthew Hill at the NRB Convention in Nashville on 2/10/09

http://www.irnusanews.com/our-programs/matthew-hill-show


89 posted on 02/12/2009 1:01:18 AM PST by FreeManN (DefendOurFreedoms.US)
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To: lucysmom

Make your case and we’ll see how it stands up.


90 posted on 02/12/2009 6:20:10 AM PST by Buckhead
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To: classical artist

“The Judge did not dismiss the case. What does this mean? “

It means the defense has yet to make the proper donation. So this judge is upping the ante.


91 posted on 02/12/2009 6:36:28 AM PST by takenoprisoner ('Never say never, and it's never too late. ')
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To: Buckhead
Make your case and we’ll see how it stands up.

Off the top of my head:

1. Accurate type identification from the document presented was impossible.

2. Using the default settings in Microsoft Word did not produce the claimed results when I tried it.

3. Typewriters capable of proportional spacing did exist way back when (I worked for a small company in the 60s that had one)

4. A variety of fonts were available, we had several.

92 posted on 02/12/2009 7:19:25 AM PST by lucysmom
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1. Type was identified as Times New Roman by Peter Tytell, the expert hired by the Thornburgh-Baccardi panel. http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/complete_report/appendix_4.pdf

I had observed that it was probably Times New Roman or Palatino.

2. Your experiment is contradicted by experiments performed by Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs, by CBS’s own document examiners.

3. Typesetting machines existed at the time that would do proportionally spaced fonts, but there were no ordinary typewriters that would do it at the time. The IBM machine that existed at the time was a hybrid typewriter/typesetting machine was a very expensive specialty machine used for making camera ready. They had no such machine at the Texas ANG office in question. I made the exact point that typesetting equipment was very expensive at the time, and that no one would use typesetting equipment for a personal memo to file.

4. The Times New Roman font was definitively not available in 1972. See Tytell report linked above.

Got anything else?


93 posted on 02/12/2009 11:36:57 AM PST by Buckhead
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To: classical artist

Recent communications lead me to believe that this case may have more promise that I originally thought.

At any rate, my best regards to Phil Berg.

The following is a Radio Interview that I arranged for Orly with Matthew Hill at the NRB Convention in Nashville on 2/10/09

http://www.irnusanews.com/our-programs/matthew-hill-show


94 posted on 02/13/2009 6:28:43 AM PST by FreeManN (DefendOurFreedoms.US)
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To: classical artist

bttt


95 posted on 02/13/2009 8:30:18 AM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MilspecRob

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96 posted on 02/15/2009 4:29:47 AM PST by FreeManN (www.obamacrimes.info)
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To: classical artist; DAVEY CROCKETT; rxsid; hoosiermama; STARWISE; Red Steel; BP2; Polarik

Anyone who wants to Email the Press about the Lawsuits against BO should go here for Email Addresses:

http://www.americanreview.us/mediadd1.htm


97 posted on 02/16/2009 2:46:22 PM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info & www.DefendOurFreedoms.US)
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To: karibdes; Frantzie; classical artist; DAVEY CROCKETT; rxsid; hoosiermama; STARWISE; Red Steel; ...

Does Dr. Edwin Viera have a WebSite? Where is he licensed to Practice Law?

Can you give me a citation for any case that he has argued?

The only case that I found listing Edwin Viera as an attorney was in Northern Virginia and Edwin Viera LOST!

Edwin Viera is not listed as an attorney on any SCOTUS reported cases.


98 posted on 02/16/2009 3:53:33 PM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info & www.DefendOurFreedoms.US)
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To: FreeManN

Looks like FreeManN is back to his old tricks again folks. Time to hit the abuse button again.

Let’s see week number 4. Do you hate or like Berg this week? How abour Orly? Hate or like her again?

You still talking to Orly everyday or is it your imagination playing tricks again.


99 posted on 02/16/2009 4:05:55 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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