Posted on 01/12/2009 8:40:09 PM PST by Freefreq
President Bush is in a position to know, he has the power to get any kind of information and he has the ability to direct the Justice Department — and — he has a duty as President to uphold the Constitution...
That says it all for me...
You said — “That’s an assumption, not a fact. What statement in re Obama’s eligibility, specifically in regard to “natural born” status, has President Bush made?”
It’s a fact that the President has directed no prosecution for violation of this Constitutional provision. Since he has the duty to uphold the Constitution, that’s all I need to know...
You said — “I suppose ST is using his twist logic from post #27. “
Pretty sound logic in that the President must uphold the Constitution, per his sworn oath and the President has the ability to get the information and also had the reason to do so (with this passport issue) and has the ability to direct prosecution when it is needed.
No prosecution means exactly that the President has decided, according to his knowledge and his sworn oath of office that there is no violation to prosecute...
That’s supposed to be your logic in determining that Bush has verified that Obama is eligible?
You asked — “That’s supposed to be your logic in determining that Bush has verified that Obama is eligible?”
Yeah, I trust President Bush a lot more than Obama...
I actually believe that President Bush will do the right thing on the qualifications issue. If it’s a violation of the Constitution, he will order prosecution. If it’s not, he won’t.
Did Vice President Cheney ask Obama to produce any evidence of his citizenship when the House and Senate met in joint session to certify the elctoral vote? Did any Congressman or Seantor object?
Settled it how? If he had produced his COLB to a court, the plaintiffs would have demanded the original vault birth certificate. If he had produced that, they would have demanded that document examiners examine it. If the court found the certificate legitimate, the plaintiffs would have demanded evidence about his adoption in Indonesia, and on and on.
If Obama had, for one minute, conceded that any court had any role in this process, he would have been tied up in litigation for 8 years. As it is, the courts have dismissed every case; the Supreme Court has refused to hear any appeals; neither Hillary (in the primaries), McCain (in the general election), the Electoral College, or any member of the House or Senate (when the electoral votes were certified), has questioned his eleigibility. He will be sworn in on schedule by Chief Justice Roberts, and will continue to ignore the internet rumors.
We are each and all beggars hoping (if we are wise, idiotically ignorant of the theft if not) that their inaccountabilities will not print so many dollars that ours are worthless except as fuel for a poor man's fire. That is beyond any penumbra of Constitutional authority, and by the grant to being non-reviewable it is beyond any vesitge of the duty of a steward in care of the wealth of others by long established common law.
Yet in this one matter you expect Mr. Bush, Commander in Chief, finally relented of his negligence in all non-war areas with regard to insuring that the Constituional requirements were met?
Where then, assuming like a rose-colored-glasses wearing daughter of Doctor Pangloss that he did do that duty, where then did he get the proper definition of "natural born" from?
For as far as we all can find, there has never been a settled determination of that term.
If only it were that simple. With all due respect....we wouldn't have witnessed Republicans prosecuted for non-crimes while DemocRats skate after committing crimes that they were guilty of beyond any shadow of doubt, all the while getting a free-pass from the leftist media.
The law may be the law, but there are ""special people"" that don't have to follow the same laws that you, I and fellow conservatives and Republicans have to follow. Those special people are, as you should know, called leftist DemocRats.
I completely agree with you! If Obama takes the oath knowing that he is ineligible to be President because he was born in Kenya (or is not a natural born citizen some other way), it would be called a “perjured oath.” Note the amount of legal fees Obama has paid to keep his original birth certificate hidden. That tells you something right there...... Note Obama’s past recreational drug use! If he were a Republican candidate, the media would be in an uncontrollable frenzy! But with Obama, the issue is essentially ignored.
I’d like to think (or hope) that something will come (eventually) of this eligibility issue. But I am coming to the gloomy conclusion that the fate we are about to suffer at the hands of the Godless left is one that we cannot escape. Part of me wants to fight it with all my being...but the other part of me is starting to feel a bit resigned to the reality (sigh).
Excellent point. I realized that this birther stuff was tinfoil hat nonsense, but the one unresolved question in my mind was why Obama's lawyers, rather than simply providing a copy of the COLB to the court, went to the trouble of writing that brief arguing that Berg had no standing. You have answered it to my satisfaction. Thanks for clearing that up.
Anybody have a link to the thread about bc on the Hannity board? Couldn’t find it.
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