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Virginity Pledges Don't Work
Live Science ^ | 01 January 2009 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 01/01/2009 4:19:17 PM PST by CE2949BB

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To: CE2949BB

lol


21 posted on 01/01/2009 6:04:29 PM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!! I am no LEMMING!)
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To: CE2949BB

Sure are posting a lot of this crap lately.

This of course is just another person’s take on the story which we debunked a couple days ago.

Whenever someone does a “survey” of a study, what you need to realise is that they are simply massaging the data to get a conclusion more to their liking.

The headline and lead suggest that our $200 million spent isn’t doing any good, but the data they are massaging is from a study in the 1990s, not based on what is currently being taught in abstinence-only education.

The education programs work, but the liberals are going to keep massaging and falsifying data until they ensure that all the money is spent teaching our kids to have more sex.


22 posted on 01/01/2009 6:36:19 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CE2949BB

Do not forget that most teenage boys are also not reared in such a framework.


23 posted on 01/01/2009 7:07:23 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: CE2949BB
The findings, reached by comparing teens with similar values (some of whom took the pledge and some who did not)...cleverly limits the study to those actually taking the pledge, and doesn't deal with the broader issue of those whose "values" include abstinence and how these values may be influenced by the money spent - they find what they want to find......
24 posted on 01/01/2009 7:14:38 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“In my nephew’s public school (fairly upscale), 6th graders were performing fellatio in the bathrooms. The school is part of the multi-culti, secularist academic philosophy.”

Sounds like your nephew needs a new school. I’m not saying my son’s school is perfect — things do happen. But he certainly hasn’t EVER been taught to be ashamed of America.


25 posted on 01/01/2009 7:25:36 PM PST by gracesdad
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The education programs work, but the liberals are going to keep massaging and falsifying data until they ensure that all the money is spent teaching our kids to have more sex.

Kids don't need "liberals" to teach them to have sex.

26 posted on 01/01/2009 7:39:41 PM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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It probably depends on why the teen signed the virginity pledge in the first place. If he/she did it because all their friends were doing it, or their church youth leader was pressuring them to do it, or for any outwardly influenced reason, then no, they probably won’t work. I remember when I was a teen and my school started making us sign “contracts” saying we wouldn’t do this, that, or the other. I signed the d***ed things because I knew I would get unrelenting grief from the teacher if I didn’t, but I never had any intention to follow through with the inane nonsense they wanted me to do or not do. A contract or pledge will only work if the contract-signer or pledge-signer wants it to work.


27 posted on 01/01/2009 10:19:10 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Q: How many Obamas does it take to change a light bulb? A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!)
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The Virginity / Chastity / Good Girl Pledge shouldn’t have been tried on the general population, simply because it won’t work. It requires a moral, spiritual, and community framework that simply doesn’t exist for most teenage girls.

And in a lot of cases, the moral/spiritual framework consists of ludicrously protective parents/community. If you get outside the very protective church/community/etc., problems start to show up.

The main problem I see with these types of pledges is that they basically say "Sex before marriage is bad. God doesn't want you to do it. So don't." and don't really address any of the underlying issues. No one ever mentions that sex and love are often two entirely different things (although they *are* meant to go together, humans tend to fail at that), or that women have a sex drive. So, when confronted with a horny boyfriend who says "You'd do it if you loved me" and the raging hormones that they're not supposed to have, they fold very easily, regardless of whether they're mentally/emotionally mature enough to handle the situation.

The people that have the most success saying 'no' until they're ready (after marriage/college graduation/whatever) are the people who have had the reasons besides "God doesn't want you to" explained to them in a reasonable, adult manner and have been raised to stand up for themselves. Unfortunately, the latter isn't very popular among parents of girls (they're supposed to be sweet and quiet and fit in, dontcha know), so even the explanation doesn't work all the time. Then, the only option is being incredibly vigilant in sheltering your daughter, but that leads to it's own problems... I'm honestly not sure which one produces more messed up people: the sheltering or the sex.

28 posted on 01/01/2009 11:56:28 PM PST by CatInTheBox (I've got... the Knack.)
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What's your point? People make mistakes. Does that mean we should be encouraging more teens to make mistakes? How many more teen pregnancies would there be without the effort to teach them to wait? We don't know, but the stupid assumption is that because there are ‘some’ that trying to teach them to wait is a waste of time. That's a fallacious deduction.

Compare the rate of teen pregnancy, STD, and suicide over the past decade to a decade before th 1960’s, when the new (secular) approach to education began. It's horrendous what adults are doing to children.

29 posted on 01/02/2009 4:13:06 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Abortion has become little more than the New Left's execution of political prisoners.)
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30 posted on 01/02/2009 5:44:33 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule." - H L Mencken.)
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