The Obama/Dunham divorce decree to be posted Friday, Jan 2.

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[mad_as_he$$]

Excuse me while I go about my business and not waste anytime waiting for this latest wet dream.

[mad_as_he$$]

Excuse me while I go about my business and not waste anytime waiting for this latest wet dream.

[Beckwith]

I am guessing that you have not found a definition of “natural born citizen” in the Constitution, Case Law of Legislation.

And I am guessing you meant,"Constitution, Case Law OR Legislation."

Try this:

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark's importance is that it is the first case decided by the Supreme Court that attempts to explain the meaning of "natural born citizen" under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution. Natural born citizen is similiar to the meaning of what a natural born subject is under Common Law in England. That is one of the reasons why the framers specifically included a grandfather clause (natural born Citizen OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution). The founding fathers knew that in order to be president, they had to grandfather themselves in because they were British subjects. If they didn't, they could not be President of the U.S. The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a native born citizen. If you look at the fact of Wong Kim Ark being born in San Francisco, CA, of Chinese parents, that holding is correct.

In Wong Kim Ark, the court thoroughly discussed “natural born citizen”. And in doing so, Justice Gray quoted directly from the holding in a prior Supreme Court case, Minor v. Happersett. The following passage is a quote from Minor as quoted by Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark:

” ‘At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens.’ Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168.”

Perkins v. Elg's importance is that it actually gives examples of what a Citizen of the U.S. is; what a native born American Citizen is; and what a natural born citizen of the U.S. is. A natural born citizen is a person who is born of two U.S. citizen parents AND born in the mainland of U.S.

The Natural Born Citizen -- The Law

[Crystal Cove]

I, who know nothing about commercial airliners, can always tell a 747 by the bump on the top. No other aircraft have the bump.

[HereInTheHeartland]

“Our country runs according to the US Constitution,”

Only partially. I'm sure that you realize that many things that the federal government does, are not provided for under the Constitution.
And many of things (such as the Federal government providing public education) are in direct opposition to the wishes of the Founders.

The General Welfare clause has been so bastardized and abused that the Founders would hardly recognize what they fought to give us.

[patriot08]

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I found this on Dr. Orly’s website:

“Obama has also failed/refused to release any records pertaining to school, college, and medical. Why? Was he registered as a foreign exchange student at both colleges? A retired INS agent who worked when Obama came into the United States stated he distinctly remembered Obama because of his ‘slick’ manners and speech. The agent says that he went back into the INS files and found the information and that Obama came into the USA on a FS-1 pas sport/visa. FS-1 is a foreign student visa clas sification, not a US citizen passport. So, who out there can get into the INS files and find Soreto/Obama’s record of entry into the USA?“

http://drorly.blogspot.com/

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[little jeremiah]

Thanks for posting that - I remember noting it when I read it.

I hope that someone has followed up on this and got documentation for one of the court cases.

[bronxboy]

He has a copy of a birth certificate posted. When you request a BC, they don’t go to as locked vault and pull out and original. Come on...I don’t have an original BC. The Berg case acknowledges his birth in Hawaii you know. Also, one of the points is that Obama Mommy left the US to young to confer citizenship...I forget how many years this is supposed to be this. This is a waste of time in my opinion- I truly mean no offense. Believe me I understand how you feel...losing sucks.

[bronxboy]

So it’s Friday. Where is the divorce decree?

[sneakers]

bttt!

[summernite]

you’re welcome. I spend a lot of time reading here, I thought I should contribute. :-)

[trumandogz]

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.

See 14th Amendment.

[trumandogz]

[Beckwith]

I have. It’s the second reference on that page. It doesn’t stand alone.

[trumandogz]

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

[dascallie]

I think the fact that nothing has leaked about the so called divorce papers by now ( was supposed to be in hand today), it probably means nothing about O’s birthplace is contained there.

Next...

[trumandogz]

[sneakers]

I don’t know dascallie, but the excitement over at the Plains chat is huge!

[dascallie]

Please don’t ridicule, it’s necessary to follow every path to try and get at the truth, inevitably there are lots of tricksters and blind alleys.

But it’s better to “fail fast’ and move on to the next road in the maze.

[patriot08]

. Ed got it. This is the first page. Tune in tonight to plainsradio to see the rest: