Posted on 12/29/2008 6:40:32 PM PST by Salvavida
Ping and thanks for posting
Did Tim Kaine sign off on this?
Absolutely NOT.
Good for you guys. This is what America needs: grass roots conservatives taking back their land.
Start by taking over your cities and counties.
Will joining get my family killed or our house burned down by the feds?
Had to ask.....
Perhaps y’all should read the Constitution. Specifically Article 1 Section 8 ...
“reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”
Congress has not prescribed a discipline (for members of the unorganized militia, which is what you are under federal law [10 USC 311]), nor has the Commonwealth of Virginia appointed your officers. And anyone who’s out there giving themselves ranks and titles ain’t worth a bucket of warm spit.
While your members may meet the criteria prescribed in 10 US 311 for membership in the federal unorganized militia, this group has no legal standing. Zip.
That said, I suggest you read up on what Ben Franklin did in Pennsylvania in 1747 when faced with a similar problem (Association for Defense). http://www.librarycompany.org/BFWriter/images/large/5.11.jpg
Whatever you call it, it’s not a legal militia. If’n you want to make it more than a bunch of yokel’s with guns, more power to you. That takes a bit of effort, not just cammies and an AR.
America just elected “the new Lincoln”.
Place your bets.
Fair question.
Our forefathers had similar concerns.
Enough said.
I assure you dear sir, the Constitution was well read. This isn’t federal.
And this State has done nothing with the unorganized militia. So we are arming and recruiting for votes. No one is “appointing” themselves officers. We need votes, hence, “friends of the militia”.
It’s the opposite of apathy.
Just got this from the poster of this “article.”
“If you take the Democratic interpretation, go ahead. But I won’t follow. Re-read it s l o w l y. You just pointed out the parts applying while the militia is called up for federal service.
It is left up to the States. Since this State hasn’t done anything with the unorganized militia, the effort is grassroots.
And we intend to vote.”
Great pardner. Vote all damn day long. That said, the current Virginia Constitution says damn little about the militia. Article 13 (to be specific) doesn’t give you much to go on. Maybe there is some statutory help that a member of the Virginia Bar (which I am not) can work out for you. As for taking the “Democratic” line I don’t, which is why I dropped you the hint about what Ben Franklin did. Good luck to you. You’re going to need it because your COMSEC is non-existent. Hope you enjoy making the acquaintance of all the nice FBI agents who’ll be going to your meetings. That’s all I’m gonna say on an open channel. Run into any members named Horiuchi, then you better get your self out of the line of fire.
Yep.
Do you have a link to this document in readable form? I would love to read up on this. The one you posted is very difficult, at best, to make out.
Thanks.
What I did with it was to open it up in photoshop. Any other image editing tool should do the trick. Simply put, the Quakers in charge of Pennsylvania immediately prior to the French and Indian War didn’t do the job of protecting the citizens. Franklin and others organized a militia.
I just stand on what my forefathers gave me. And I don’t need someone to hold my hand and codify whether or not this militia can recruit members. Read Constitutional Homeland Security.
We have no mistrust of the FBI, or any other government agency/entity. They are welcome, and we will specifically invite them, and encourage them to join.
It’s the secretive militias that I don’t trust.
Good luck with that.
Thanks. I’ll dig into it.
Your tag line is inocrrect. Having guns means nothing.
He who has the gold makes the rules.
We have no gold but we have all kinds of guns and look where we are.
You have just made the argument yourself, against your own tagline.
Interesting, huh.
Only once did a store owner give me a decent answer. The owner of an frozen custard place reluctantly declined to accept gold, because he “could not make proper change”.
All of this is in good fun, but it proves a point in spades. Americans are well trained to only think of the worthless paper we have as being real “money”.
Therefore: He who prints the money and enforces legal tender laws makes the rules.
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