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Rick Warren and the Cost of Being Cool
http://www.albertmohler.com ^ | December 19, 2008 | Dr. Albert Mohler

Posted on 12/19/2008 8:02:36 AM PST by This Just In

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1 posted on 12/19/2008 8:02:36 AM PST by This Just In
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I saw a clip of Warren and Curry and toward the end of the clip Warren indicated that he would invite the homosexuals to his church for donuts and water. I didn’t get that. Why donuts and water?


2 posted on 12/19/2008 8:07:41 AM PST by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
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Well, I’m relieved he didn’t offer the sacraments.


3 posted on 12/19/2008 8:10:04 AM PST by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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What is clear in all this is Obama’s realization that in his zeal to be all things Liberal to all Liberals he has painted himself into the corner that is the other half of the country. Now he is trying to show (as a facade) that he is a real centrist. But the left doesn’t want a centrist and they are breathing fire.
That’s the problem with trying to straddle the fence, to get off you have to fall one way or the other, but it’s still a fall.


4 posted on 12/19/2008 8:17:05 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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Precisely. I don’t believe you can be a centrist liberal. As a matter of fact, another description of a “centrist” would be; one who has no character.


5 posted on 12/19/2008 8:20:13 AM PST by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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Well, I’m relieved he didn’t offer the sacraments.

Warren's church is a Southern Baptist church. Southern Baptists don't administer "sacraments." They observe the ordinances of "The Lord's Supper," and "Believers' Baptism."

6 posted on 12/19/2008 8:25:13 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: Gamecock

Al Mohler ping to read later


7 posted on 12/19/2008 8:25:26 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: This Just In
I commend President-elect Obama for his courage to willingly take enormous heat from keep his base uninformed of his strategy while by inviting someone like me, with whom he doesn’t agree on every any issue of importance, to offer the Invocation be used as a political pawn at his historic Inaugural ceremony.

Fixed
8 posted on 12/19/2008 8:25:37 AM PST by messierhunter
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R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said he wouldn't deliver the invocation for a president who supports abortion rights.

Well done.

9 posted on 12/19/2008 8:26:56 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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Nevertheless I had an opportunity to speak. And that dialogue, I think, is what my campaign has been all about.

Had that dialogue been the focus of your campaign you would have lost handily. You were a disgrace in that quasi-debate, you bungled your answers like a complete newb while McCain was surprisingly clear headed and straight to the point. Your electoral victory had nothing at all to do with that "dialogue" and you know it. This is nothing more than a transparent attempt to head off any future criticism about moral issues by using Warren as your pawn.
10 posted on 12/19/2008 8:29:57 AM PST by messierhunter
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I am honored by this opportunity to pray God’s blessing on the office of the President and its current and future inhabitant, asking the Lord to provide wisdom to America’s leaders during this critical time in our nation’s history.

If you actually pray what you should be praying given this president-elect's stated intentions and plans, you'd never be invited back. I expect you'll take the "civil" (politically correct) road and leave out any real wisdom from your prayer. Please prove me wrong.
11 posted on 12/19/2008 8:34:56 AM PST by messierhunter
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Al Mohler

Well written and a conservative Southern Baptist.

He seems to have convictions that Platte River Rick doesn’t have.

I’m glad.


12 posted on 12/19/2008 8:40:55 AM PST by Rightly Biased (McCain is the reason Sarah Lost <><)
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Here are Dr. Mohler’s credentials, which Rick Warren can’t hold a candle to:

Albert Mohler’s Bio

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Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., serves as the ninth president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary-the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention and one of the largest seminaries in the world.

Dr. Mohler has been recognized by such influential publications as Time and Christianity Today as a leader among American evangelicals. In fact, Time.com called him the “reigning intellectual of the evangelical movement in the U.S”.

In addition to his presidential duties, Dr. Mohler hosts a daily live nationwide radio program on the Salem Radio Network. He also writes a popular blog and a regular commentary on moral, cultural and theological issues. Both can be accessed through Dr. Mohler’s website, www.albertmohler.com. Called “an articulate voice for conservative Christianity at large” by The Chicago Tribune, Dr. Mohler’s mission is to address contemporary issues from a consistent and explicit Christian worldview.

Widely sought as a columnist and commentator, Dr. Mohler has been quoted in the nation’s leading newspapers, including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, The Washington Post, The Atlanta Journal/Constitution and The Dallas Morning News. He has also appeared on such national news programs as CNN’s “Larry King Live,” NBC’s “Today Show” and “Dateline NBC,” ABC’s “Good Morning America,” “The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer” on PBS, MSNBC’s “Scarborough Country” and Fox’s “The O’Reilly Factor.”

Dr. Mohler is a theologian and an ordained minister, having served as pastor and staff minister of several Southern Baptist churches. He came to the presidency of Southern Seminary from service as editor of The Christian Index, the oldest of the state papers serving the Southern Baptist Convention.

A native of Lakeland, Florida, Dr. Mohler was a Faculty Scholar at Florida Atlantic University before receiving his Bachelor of Arts degree from Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama. He holds a Master of Divinity degree and the Doctor of Philosophy (in systematic and historical theology) from Southern Seminary. He has pursued additional study at the St. Meinrad School of Theology and has done research at Oxford University (England).

Dr. Mohler also serves Professor of Christian Theology at Southern Seminary. His writings have been published throughout the United States and Europe. He has contributed to several books including “Hell Under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment,” “Here We Stand: A Call From Confessing Evangelicals” and “The Coming Evangelical Crisis.” He served as General Editor of “The Gods of the Age or the God of the Ages: Essays by Carl F. H. Henry” and served from 1985 to 1993 as Associate Editor of Preaching, a journal for evangelical preachers. He currently serves as Editor-in-Chief of The Southern Baptist Journal of Theology. Forthcoming book projects include works on the future of evangelical theology and on the evangelical responses to the cultural crisis.

A leader within the Southern Baptist Convention, Dr. Mohler has served in several offices including a term as Chairman of the SBC Committee on Resolutions, which is responsible for the denomination’s official statements on moral and doctrinal issues. He also served on the seven-person Program and Structure Study Committee, which recommended the 1995 restructuring of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination. In 2000, Dr. Mohler served on a blue-ribbon panel that made recommendations to the Southern Baptist Convention for revisions to the Baptist Faith and Message, the statement of faith most widely held among Southern Baptists. He currently serves as chairman of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Council of Seminary Presidents.

Dr. Mohler has presented lectures or addresses at institutions including Wheaton College, Samford University, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, the University of Richmond, Mercer University, Cedarville University, Beeson Divinity School, Reformed Theological Seminary, Geneva College, Covenant Theological Seminary, The Cumberland School of Law, The Regent University School of Law, Vanderbilt University and the historic Chautauqua Institution, among many others.

Dr. Mohler is listed in Who’s Who in America and other biographical reference works and serves on the boards of several organizations including Focus on the Family. He also serves on the Board of Reference for The Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.


13 posted on 12/19/2008 8:43:43 AM PST by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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but but but

Rick Warren wrote a book. It sold millions of copies. It didn’t make me feel dirty when I was done reading it.thats not fair He is America’s pastor


14 posted on 12/19/2008 8:46:04 AM PST by Rightly Biased (McCain is the reason Sarah Lost <><)
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“but but but....Rick Warren wrote a book...”

As did Al Gore.


15 posted on 12/19/2008 8:47:44 AM PST by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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and Both Books contain about the same amount of B.S.


16 posted on 12/19/2008 8:48:41 AM PST by Rightly Biased (McCain is the reason Sarah Lost <><)
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I would agree. It’s the “Me” “theology”.


17 posted on 12/19/2008 8:50:27 AM PST by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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What profit be there for a man to gain the whole world, but lose his soul?


18 posted on 12/19/2008 9:24:22 AM PST by Defiant (I for one welcome our new Obama Overlords.)
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His church was the target of protests by homosexuals unhappy with its stand on same-sex marriage. Members of the church offered water to the protesters and provided donuts for them.

The Bible tells us to feed our enemies and to good to those who would harm us. Members of the congregation were simply doing as they believe the Bible tells them to behave toward those who are not friendly to us.

19 posted on 12/19/2008 9:42:48 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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Warren is a useful idiot & NO, I would not participate in any inaugural of a guy that supports baby killings.


20 posted on 12/19/2008 9:45:56 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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