Kenyan Ambassador Says Obama’s Birthplace in KENYA is “An Attraction…Already Well-Known”

donedems.com ^ | November 21, 2008 | Old Major

[mkjessup]

To put it in perspective, Kenyans also have a tourist trap that is the “final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant” run by a mystic pseudo-Christian cult at the base of Mount Kenya.

And said trap lacks a Grandmother stating that she was present when the 'Ark' was finally laid to rest, nor does said trap have a Kenyan Ambassador testifying to the existence of said 'Ark'.

On the other hand, when it comes to Comrade 0bama, the only 'trap' is the one that has been sprung on an ignorant and willfully stupid American public.

[Fichori]

Oh boy... (snicker)

[PA-RIVER]

Check this out ... I believe Hussein is not qualified ... British common law and the Constitution:

The term “natural born” citizen has a long history in British common law.(38) In fact, a law passed in 1677 law says that “natural born” citizens include people born overseas to British citizens. This usage was undoubtedly known to John Jay, who had children born overseas while he was serving as a diplomat.(39) It also appears to have been employed by the members of the first Congress, who included many of the people who had participated in the Constitutional Convention. To be specific, The Naturalization Act of 1790, which was passed by this Congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens; Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States.”(40)

This history suggests that the Founding Fathers used the term “natural born” as an expansive definition of citizenship, that is, as a way to make certain that people born overseas to American citizens would have the full rights of other American citizens.(41)

A particularly compelling version of this interpretation, with language that applies, inadvertently, no doubt, to foreign-born adoptees, can be found in an article written almost 100 years ago by Alexander Porter Morse.(42) He writes that by drawing on the term so well known from English law, the Founders were recognizing “the law of hereditary, rather than territorial allegiance.”(43) In other words, they were drawing on the English legal tradition, which protected allegiance to the king by conferring citizenship on all children “whose fathers were natural-born subjects,” regardless of where the children were born.(44) Thus, according to Morse, “the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the President should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth.”(45) He goes on to say that the presidential eligibility clause “was scarcely intended to bar the children of American parentage, whether born at sea or in foreign territory.... A natural-born citizen has been defined as one whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country.”(46

[Dallas59]

Too bad we ALL have to suffer before that happens.

[Teacher317]

My errant counter-example does not make my point incorrect. If you and your spouse are both citizens and you happen to have a child during a vacation in Brazil, your child is still an American citizen.

A better example: Mitt Romney's father George (Gov of Michigan) ran against Nixon for the GOP nomination in 1968, and he was born in Chihuahua, Mexico. (Mitt's grandfather had 3 wives. They went to Mexico after Utah changed their polygamy laws.)

[mkjessup]

My errant counter-example does not make my point incorrect. If you and your spouse are both citizens and you happen to have a child during a vacation in Brazil, your child is still an American citizen.

The child is indeed a citizen however the child is not NATIVE BORN meaning born on U.S. soil which IS the Constitutional requirement for any person seeking the Presidency.

That is the fact that you need to disprove and refute in order to be correct.

Enjoy your day.

[mkjessup]

I might add as an afterthought regarding George Romney, is that had he actually been within reach of the GOP nomination for 1968 that he may have been challenged on his own Constitutional qualifications for the Presidency.

What is needed are the precise details for his birth, whether or not he was born in surroundings that could be defined as "U.S. soil" even if outside of the CONUS.

[Fresh Wind]

[mkjessup]

And a PS:

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, states “No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of president” which effectively prohibits people born in foreign countries from serving as President.

[El Gato]

No. You could produce video proof of his birth in a Kenyan sh*t-hole and no court will overturn the election.

It's not a matter of "overturning the election". This is not a dispute about counting votes, casting votes, or even eligibility to vote. It's about enforcing the provision of the Constitution that provided that only a natural born citizen is eligible to the office of President. The resolution will not involve any new elections...unless the court also declares that the electors where fraudulently elected. But I don't expect that, at not with the cases now in the courts, because AFAIK, that is not at issue.

[El Gato]

To put it in perspective, Kenyans also have a tourist trap that is the “final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant” run by a mystic pseudo-Christian cult at the base of Mount Kenya.

Events of a few thousand years ago, and events of less than 50 years ago are quite different things. Also, some cult in the jungle is a bit different than the ambassador of the country.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

The Founders wanted those loyal to the US to serve.

Well hell, that right there disqualifies him.

[DJ MacWoW]

I certainly agree with that.

[FreeAtlanta]

Why do they keep beating that dead horse? Unless I misunderstand the law, his mother was a US citizen, so it doesn't matter where he was born.

Unfortunately, you do not understand the law. It has been stated many times in these threads, so I am not going to repeat it. Obama and Democrats have intentionally put our Constitution in danger. If this isn't treason and unpatriotic, then what is?

[real_patriotic_american]

Thank you for providing this information. Also, Obama, the DNC and Co-Defendants must answer a “Writ of Certiorari” from Philip J. Berg in PA. to the U.S. Supreme Court on or before December 1, 2008.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244