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5 Myths About Obama's Win
The Patriot Room ^ | November 16, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 11/16/2008 7:39:41 AM PST by Bill Dupray

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To: Bill Dupray

My heart sank when I heard McCain say he was suspending his campaign to go back to Washington. I knew it was over then.


21 posted on 11/16/2008 8:18:23 AM PST by Ditter
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To: zeebee
I have a problem with this myth. You have a 2% increase in black voters and a 1% increase in young voters- that's 3% and McCain lost by 4%. It would have been much closer if not for those 2 groups.

Yes. With 3% less of the vote, Obama probably would have lost IN, OH, VA, NC and FL.

Obama's margin of victory would have been by one state, such as CO.

22 posted on 11/16/2008 8:19:33 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Enchante

“...in reality Obama would raise taxes on a far wider range of Americans, especially with his huge wish list of nearly $1 trillion in new programs.”

yep....here it is again, cached before they scrubbed his website of it.....

http://changelost.com/urban_policy.html


23 posted on 11/16/2008 8:20:42 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Bill Dupray
McCain was a moderate (Democrat-Lite) and moderates lose because they are unable to draw crisp distinctions between themselves and their opponents. Also, moderates do not have a coherent governing philosophy.
24 posted on 11/16/2008 8:21:33 AM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: Bill Dupray

If Palin was in charge of the campaign, they would have done much better. McCain lacked any real fighting spirit, he was unenthusiastic as far as I am concerned. He had a potential Margaret Thatcher and he didn’t use her to her full capabilities. She needs plenty of face time if she is going to go for the 2012 game. With her present popularity she may even consider some world traveling. Go Sarah, you can do it!


27 posted on 11/16/2008 8:23:08 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Bill Dupray

Interesting article...and I agree with it in general.

McCain was a bad campaigner and was too liberal on many issues...and yes if someone other than Palin was the VP pick it definitely would be a 50 state slaughter for McCain

Probably the only problem with the article was that it didnt mention McCain losing the Hispanic vote, 2 to 1, to Obama...when McCain was the more liberal of the two on illegal alien amnesty


28 posted on 11/16/2008 8:23:29 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (2010: A RINO Purge Odyssey)
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To: Enchante
Yes, and even with the great assist from Joe the Plumber the McCain campaign was still inept at shredding Obambi’s “tax policy” — they still carried out the debate on Obama’s turf, allowing the claim that “95%” would see a tax cut or everyone under “$250,000” so then the Obamanators and Media were able to make fun of Joe the Plumber.

And Obama's #1 arguement about Bush's failed policies and tax cuts for the rich and McCain just more of the same was never effectively answered. Bush's tax cut was not for the rich, it was across the board, and if anything kept us out of recession through such huge disasters as 9-11 and katrina. It is amazing we did not suffer a recession through Bush's two terms.

29 posted on 11/16/2008 8:26:17 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

media. Media. Media. All again McCain ... Misinformation and negativity from news sources.


30 posted on 11/16/2008 8:28:19 AM PST by Ceoman
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To: EagleUSA

Ditto.


31 posted on 11/16/2008 8:29:14 AM PST by gigster
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; All

re: Hispanic vote

One thing I haven’t seen written about since the election, and it was barely mentioned before Nov. 4, was that Obama was running ads in Spanish that totally distorted McCain’s actual positions (whatever we may think of them), making him out to be really hostile to the Hispanic sector of the electorate. Does anyone else remember anything about that? It’s gone down the Mediascum memoryhole, but that may have been a big factor if enough millions of Hispanics were reached by that message and believed that McCain was hostile to them. I think it was a real Axelrod hit-job that went unanswered, but I haven’t seen too much about it.


32 posted on 11/16/2008 8:29:17 AM PST by Enchante (Thanks, Mediascum, you "elected" your candidate and now the country will pay....)
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To: Bill Dupray

bttt


33 posted on 11/16/2008 8:31:24 AM PST by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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To: LiberConservative; Bill Dupray

SO true, McCain was Obama-lite on plenty of issues and voters figured why not just have the real thing.


34 posted on 11/16/2008 8:32:07 AM PST by Enchante (Thanks, Mediascum, you "elected" your candidate and now the country will pay....)
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To: gitmo

Yo Gitmo—Welcome to reality. GOP, IMO, is just another wing of demrat party. There are no places for conservatives at its table. To argue otherwise is at best naieve and at worse delusional.

Moreover, if conservatives do not take the schools back all else is a waste of effort.

Also, I think the word “conservative” has been demonized by the demrat left and we need a name change. I’m thinking “Constitutionalist”—or “Connie” for short.

In any case, building a viable Constitutionalist Party and taking back the schools is not done in a couple of election cycles. It will take years.


35 posted on 11/16/2008 8:36:55 AM PST by dools007
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To: Enchante

I agree that whatever McCain did would not have overcome completely the drag of George Bush and the economic meltdown, but here are 10 reasons why the result was worse that it should have been: 1) McCain’s pettiness in his continued disdain for Rush Limbaugh could be felt throughout the right-wing talk radio air waves; nobody prefers voting for someone who could be that spiteful; in not allowing Sarah to go on Rush’s program immediately after her selection as his VP nominee, he failed to legitimize her credentials to the fiscal conservatives and foreign affairs conservatives (Sarah already had the social conservatives); 2)McCain unbelievably did not use Sarah and her charisma in any campaign ads, especially in the last week of the campaign; 3)McCain voting for the bailout when his one vote would not have made a difference anyway; 4)McCain and his campaign staff not hitting back stronger in defending Sarah; 5) campaign infighting; 6)McCain announcing in the last day of the campaign that he was going to win instead of staying on script that he was the underdog; 7)McCain was not an eleoquent spokesman for his economic strategy; 8)going on SNL and appearing with Tina Fey as she again mocked Sarah after Sarah herself had done quite a bit on her own appearance on SNL to dispel the myth that she was a bimbo; 9)denying press availability to Sarah during the first half of the campaign and having her not appear on any of the Sunday talk shows to establish her credibility to the American people; 10)a feeling among a segment of the public that McCain did not really want to win-he just wanted to ‘reach across the aisle’, in a ‘bipartisan manner’, as a ‘maverick’ and made a point of saying the Obama ‘is qualified to be President of the USA.’


38 posted on 11/16/2008 8:54:28 AM PST by techno
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To: pediddle

Joe the Plumber said what needed to be said i.e. Obama has marxist leanings.

You attack Joe the Plumber for being a tax cheat. More power to him. Years of expanding socialism has forced good people to have to maneuver through an unfair system. Welfare - I assure you Joe and everyone has paid for it. So what?

My name is also Samuel Joseph but growing up I went by my middle name.

Who are you to decide who should deliver the message? Joe like everyone else has been the victim of our ever-expanding government; who better to speak out than him? Oh yeah, JOHN MCCAIN. But apparently he and his entourage didn’t know the song.

Free speech for thee but none for me. After Obama marginalizes large numbers of us so that we can’t afford taxes, licenses, compliance with regulations, etc. then I guess we won’t be able to speak out according to the stylistic advice of pediddle. Don’t attack Joe because John McCain didn’t know how to run as a Republican who would end the governmental nonsense the average man pays for everyday.


39 posted on 11/16/2008 8:55:17 AM PST by Harris ((optional, printed after your name on post))
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To: Bill Dupray
"Many conservatives were voting for 2 reasons in this election: (1) Get Sarah Palin in the Vice-President’s mansion, and (2) Deny the White House to a radical Marxist. The identity of the Republican nominee was irrelevant. Had McCain not picked Palin, this election would have been a bloodbath."

ditto!
40 posted on 11/16/2008 9:00:54 AM PST by Faux_Pas (When I die, I want to be buried in St. Martin Parish so I can remain politically active. ~E.K.Long)
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