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Velvet Glove Iron Fist A History of Anti-Smoking
velvetgloveironfist.com ^ | Christopher Snowdon

Posted on 08/21/2008 5:28:39 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

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To: fanfan

I got my freedom back already:

I buy Native American cigs from the original cultivators of the crop and smoke them in the privacy of my own home.

It’s the rest of the country I worry about.


41 posted on 08/22/2008 2:40:44 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Oh, sorry.
I didn’t mean you specifically.

I meant all of us.


42 posted on 08/22/2008 2:54:32 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: fanfan; SheLion

No reason to ever apologize to me, fanfan.

I appreciate when people call me a dumbass.

I’m a dumbass. You’re a dumbass. We’re all dumbasses. We’re just human.

The difference is that conservatives understand that the “government by the people and for the people” are full of dumbasses and seek to limit their power, while liberals believe that these dumbasses can solve all of the world’s ills and want to give their neighbors (the aforementioned dumbasses more power over their lives).

One day, I hope that the sheeple will realize this is not about annoying “smoke” but control.

I love how you pinged SheLion. She will always be #1 on my ping list. I’m sure she is looking down from Heaven and smiling.


43 posted on 08/22/2008 3:21:45 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
One day, I hope that the sheeple will realize this is not about annoying “smoke” but control.

Sadly, it will only happen when "they", come for "them".

I love how you pinged SheLion. She will always be #1 on my ping list. I’m sure she is looking down from Heaven and smiling.

Agreed, Eric. She Lion will always be with us.

:-D

44 posted on 08/22/2008 3:45:13 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Hold on a sec.

When did I call you a dumbass?

I wouldn’t do that.

To you?

LOL.


45 posted on 08/22/2008 3:51:50 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: SheLion

Thank you for turning me on to roll your owns. You will be sorely missed lady. Sniff.


46 posted on 08/22/2008 3:54:05 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Gone fishin.)
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To: Nipfan

I’ll bet you start hacking when you read stories like this as well.


47 posted on 08/22/2008 4:16:40 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Nipfan

Sugar is next, you’ve been warned.


48 posted on 08/22/2008 4:18:28 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Nipfan

You’re right about the idea of focus on medical expense but none of the moneys extracted through taxes and legal settlements have made their way to pay for such.

However we have over 200 anti-smoking organizations today still sidling up to the trough.

Like I said, sugar is next (contains lots of carbon, you know).


49 posted on 08/22/2008 4:24:51 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer; Nipfan
The one thing I learned is that you have to be patient with our fellow citizens and even sometimes "conservatives". They still think that all of this money and effort was spent so that they wouldn't ever have to be annoyed by stinky smoke. They are not bad people. The real reason for the discrimination was never published in the MSM papers they read. It's hard for people to believe this could happen in America.

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50 posted on 08/22/2008 4:31:25 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Nipfan
I have always hated cigarettes and never wanted to be anywhere near smokers.

Then don't go where the smokers are and leave us the hell alone.

51 posted on 08/22/2008 7:10:03 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: IYellAtMyTV
It keeps us smokers from beating supercilious twits like you to a pulp.

Yup.

52 posted on 08/22/2008 7:16:36 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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“Most of the really draconian laws are, rightly or wrongly, based on the idea of medical expenses borne by society as a result of smoking.”

At minimum, this comment shows that you acknowledge that socialist policies will inevitably lead to fascist policies. In this case, the “costs to society” for health care is clearly socialist and it has lead to the fascist trampling of private property rights.

The sad part is that many FReepers seem to think this is entirely appropriate.


53 posted on 08/25/2008 7:50:00 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: swarthyguy

“Conservatives are just mirror images of Libs.”

I don’t agree at all. However, if you replace “conservatives” with “Republicans” then I would whole heartedly agree. I still consider Conservatism to be in existence, it is just getting harder to see in our society. Republicans have all but kicked them out of the party.


54 posted on 08/25/2008 8:16:17 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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