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Conservative indie pop? Liberal country western? Election season blues...
Finding New Tunes blog ^ | 8-13-08 | Jon

Posted on 08/16/2008 2:23:19 PM PDT by lainie

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I think this is the kind of discussion a lot of people here would enjoy.

I agree with his premise that most of the conservative leaning music is more libertarian in actuality. I also agree with the commenter that said the Eagles' "Get Over It" is unmitigated crap, no matter what side of the political fence one's on. Also to be noted, "Bodies" by the Sex Pistols: Johnny Rotten has gone on record saying he's not pro-life, though he waffles on whether he's pro-choice at the same time. He revisited the theme with a 1987 song "The Body," by his then-band Public Image, Ltd.

#17 on the "liberal" country songs list is a head-scratcher. "Okie From Muskogee" certainly doesn't glorify liberal politics. It always said to me 'we're here, we're Okie, we think you're hippie crap, get used to it.' Was that not the intention? Lyle Lovett's "Church" doesn't strike me as liberal, either. And the author of the country list doesn't know that #43 was another artist's song (Vicki Lawrence, from 1972), and isn't so much pro-liberal as it was anti-south.

Anyway, discuss!

1 posted on 08/16/2008 2:23:19 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Cheapskate; mylife; JennysCool; BurbankKarl; SilvieWaldorfMD; Jet Jaguar
hi y'all, thought you might have comments.


2 posted on 08/16/2008 2:42:54 PM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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To: lainie

Wheres the tune?

.... Red white and blue..

U.S. Blues


3 posted on 08/16/2008 3:06:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: lainie

#22 “Red Barchetta,” by Rush.

My pick as well.


4 posted on 08/16/2008 3:08:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Obama: The presumptuous democratic nominee)
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To: lainie
And if Rush Limbaugh told his listeners about that band?

Why, then the worshippers of Limbaugh would DEMAND to hear that band.

No matter how much they sucked, or even if they were on lame-ass AM radio.

5 posted on 08/16/2008 3:51:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (I'm voting for McCain because he's white.)
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To: lainie

Hmm, interesting. I agree with most of the conservative rock, but I think there was a lot of stretching going on with liberal country. Conservatives work hard for a 40 hour paycheck too, and I think Eric ignored the conservative values expressed in a few of those songs in his effort to find a liberal stance.

The singer/songwriter’s intent can’t be factored in, in this case, because unless every listener has a chance to sit down and hear those views, most will get out of a song what they want. And that depends a whole lot of their own outlook on life. Which is why I love rock without getting pissed. :)

I would have included Twisted Sister’s “We’re not gonna take it”. No matter the band’s intent, which was almost certainly not mine, it fit perfectly with my mood when France was busy screwing us in the build-up to the Iraq war.

oh You’re So Condescending
your Gall Is Never Ending
we Don’t Want Nothin’, Not A Thing From You
your Life Is Trite And Jaded
boring And Confiscated
if That’s Your Best, Your Best Won’t Do

Kit


6 posted on 08/16/2008 4:01:00 PM PDT by DancingMyRainbow
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Here are a few suggestions for the conservative list:
  1. Boslhevik--Waring's Pennsylvanians, 1926
  2. WPA Blues--Bill Weldon, 1936
  3. WPA--Skeets Tolbert & His Orchestra, 1940
  4. Atomic Power--Fred Kirby, 1946
  5. The Red We Want (is the red we've got in the old Red, White & Blue)--Hugo Winterhalter, 1950
  6. The Fiery Bear--Tex Ritter, 1950
  7. Advice to Joe--Roy Acuff, 1950
  8. Old Soldiers Never Die--Gene Autry, 1951
  9. They Locked God Outside the Iron Curtain--Wesley Tuttle, 1952
  10. Stalin Kicked the Bucket--Ray Anderson, 1953

7 posted on 08/16/2008 4:02:13 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Why isn’t “Six Days on the Road” by Dave Dudley (1963) on the conservative list? Is it too libertarian?


8 posted on 08/16/2008 4:04:34 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Can you love a song which endorses a philosophy to which you are vehemently opposed?

Sure. "Rise Up!" by the New Singers (1936) is a stirring Communist Party anthem, and "Plow Under" by the Almanac Singers (1941) is a catchy anti-war tune.

9 posted on 08/16/2008 4:10:18 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Seals and Crofts were devout followers of their chosen faith and insisted that they be given time after each concert to speak to interested fans about Baha'i. Dash Crofts' wife's sister wrote a poem after viewing a documentary on abortion, which Jim Seals put to music. The result was an anti-abortion song called "Unborn Child", written from the view point of the fetus. Against the advice of Warner Brothers Records, the duo used the title for their 1974 album, which rose to number 14, but the single stalled at #66. The song also brought out many pro-choice and anti-abortion demonstrations to their concerts.

...gleaned from the internet. I knew I had read about it somewhere.

10 posted on 08/16/2008 5:25:45 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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...and Glen Campbell’s songs can be taken either way. Listen to Galveston or Try a Little Kindness, although Glen himself was a Reagan man, among other things.


11 posted on 08/16/2008 5:27:22 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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Evenin Everybody!,I don't know if there would be enough cash involved to make a strictly"CONSERVATIVE" band viable.

Getting airtime in the "LEGIT"radio circles would be a big pain in the butt.

12 posted on 08/16/2008 6:32:24 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter"I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back")
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To: Jet Jaguar; mylife

Wish I had access to an mp3 library that has all of these songs. I must have heard Red Barchetta but I can’t think of it. Haven’t heard of U.S. Blues at all. :-)


13 posted on 08/17/2008 9:31:37 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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To: Fiji Hill

I like the ideas but I guess he tried to compose a list of modern-era rock songs. The kind that most people know and have probably not thought much about, politically speaking.


14 posted on 08/17/2008 10:05:05 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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That makes me think of Bob Marley, who is missing from the list. “Get Up, Stand Up” and “Redemption Song” are worker/oppression style tunes that speak of faith and the Almighty. Conservatives can see something in them, at least.


15 posted on 08/17/2008 10:14:14 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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I never knew that about Seals & Crofts! Wow, that’s really interesting. Brave of them for their ERA/Roe/militant women’s lib time. (I don’t know, what is as bad in England in the 70’s?)


16 posted on 08/17/2008 10:15:23 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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Hiya cheapie.. maybe when there’s a flaming liberal in the white house. Rock has to have something to rebel against.


17 posted on 08/17/2008 10:16:29 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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That’s true. Galveston was a song about a man going off to (the Spanish-American) war, but ended up being copped as an anti-Vietnam anthem since it was released in the midst. Funny how there’s no mention of Uncle Ted Nugent on this list. heh


18 posted on 08/17/2008 10:19:46 AM PDT by lainie ("It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain)
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Yeah, but my hunch is that Obama boy is gonna get beat

and It will take a little longer for McCain to light that fuse.


19 posted on 08/17/2008 12:04:08 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter"I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back")
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Yeah, I've been playin Marley stuff for post church service tunes for several years.

I've never had any complaints either.

20 posted on 08/17/2008 12:06:52 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter"I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back")
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