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Ron Paul on Glenn Beck Show

Posted on 07/30/2008 4:27:52 PM PDT by rightwinghour

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To: rightwinghour

Where’s your reply to my questions? Loser. You don’t have an answer. Do you?


21 posted on 07/30/2008 5:09:42 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: messierhunter

Paul supported the Afghanistan action to begin with, but we didn’t really do what we said we were going to do. And now we don’t even know where Osama Bin Laden is. Oh, and you can throw out labels such as paulogist and truther all you want, but at least have the decency to attack my arguments, instead of attacking those of a group.


22 posted on 07/30/2008 5:12:22 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: rightwinghour

You’re an ignorant ElRon buttkiss. A waste of time.


23 posted on 07/30/2008 5:14:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: rightwinghour

Take that reasoning to WWII. We should never have entered the european theater according to your own logic. Germany didn’t attack us at Pearl Harbor. The US should have guaranteed Germany and Italy that they would not assist Britain any longer if they agreed not to declare war on the US. It was not our business to free millions from Hitler LOL.


24 posted on 07/30/2008 5:15:46 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Nervous Tick

Geez, try being polite. It goes a long way in a discussion. The answer is of course in the Constitution. Our current money is unconstitutional because it is fiat paper money, and is not backed by anything. The framers of the Constitution specified that only gold and/or silver could be used as money. The reason why is because if there is a printing press available to print money, governments inevitably print what they need/want, and the currency is devalued to the point of worthlessness. They knew this from experience because they printed “Continentals” during the war and it got so bad there was a saying: “not worth a Continental”. Going back to Constitutional money would mean at the very least stopping the printing presses completely and going on some kind of gold standard, or even a gold/silver hybrid of some sort. The devil is, of course, in the details.


25 posted on 07/30/2008 5:16:48 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: Nervous Tick

How am I ignorant? Why are you so rude?


26 posted on 07/30/2008 5:18:12 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: rightwinghour

He wants to surrender in afghanistan. Yes or no? I don’t care whether he supported it on 9/12 (figuratively, if you nit pick on this I’ll eat your head off for dinner) or not, he wants to surrender now that the going has gotten tough. We know Osama is either in afghanistan or so close to it that it is essential that we maintain operations there to eventually pursue him wherever he is. Claiming he “might not” be there is a weak dodge. It doesn’t matter. The taliban IS there and they protected him.


27 posted on 07/30/2008 5:19:35 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter

PS. My understanding is paul wanted a surgical strike, not a war in afghanistan. He is a pacifist.


28 posted on 07/30/2008 5:21:13 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter

We could have avoided WWII altogether, at least our part in it. FDR’s “opposite of neutral” policies before we got into it led to Japan’s attack of Pearl Harbor. If we had stayed neutral during the war, there would not have been a need for making deals with anyone.


29 posted on 07/30/2008 5:23:57 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: messierhunter

He wants our military out of all foreign countries, period. That’s not surrender, that’s ending a destructive foreign policy that’s gone on for over a hundred years. We’ve been fighting in Afghanistan for so long now, it’s crazy that we haven’t gotten him. Either he’s there or not. If he is, get him, if not, find his a$$.


31 posted on 07/30/2008 5:27:07 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: rightwinghour

>> Why are you so rude?

Because you’re a Paulista sh!thead and I have no patience with them.


32 posted on 07/30/2008 5:27:39 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Um, ok.

Art. I Sec. 8 Cl. 5
[Congress shall have Power ... ] To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, ...;
Art. I Sec. 10 Cl. 1
[No State shall ...] make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; ...

Notice Congress does not have the power to make anything “legal tender”, which is what paper money is. Read your history and read the Constitution...PLEASE.


33 posted on 07/30/2008 5:31:14 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus Reagan

I listen to Glenn Beck and mostly agree, but he does go on these anal benders consisting of a full hour of a doting interview of a favorite subject specific guru.

(Me, I’m sixty and fully deployable to one of these 700 overseas bases. It’s great being a warrant officer.)


34 posted on 07/30/2008 5:31:33 PM PDT by elcid1970 (My cartridges are dipped in pig grease)
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To: rightwinghour
I am not a pacifist. I believe in the theory of Just War.

You are indeed a pacifist, that's clear. OK, let's start your education since you are so ignorant of the facts. Pacifists always are, so that's another clue you are one. 1.Saddam wouldn't comply to 17 UN resolutions. 2.We have found over 300 mass graves in Iraq. 3.Saddam was paying $25K to each family of every Palestinian suicide bomber 4. He was shooting at our planes in the no-fly zone. 5. He was shooting at our weapons inspectors. 6. He shot Scud missles at Israel. 7. He has a terrorist training camp called Salman Pak in the suburbs of Baghdad. 8. Invaded Kuwait, 9. Used WMD's on the Kurds. 10.Harbored many terrorists in Iraq, some of which were living openly in Baghdad. And with all that, you and the rest of the idiot Paulites think that we shouldn't have invaded and taken him out. Thank God you and Ron Paul wern't around during Hitler's reign, we'd all be speaking German now. And how exactly is peace a danger to freedom and capitalism?

You can't even see the basic logic? Amazing, but sad. Your version of peace is not peace but total subjugation to any dictator who flexes his muscles, when then causes gestapo-like tactics that go on for a long time when we or anyone else live under a dictator.

It is not our business to “free” millions of people from a dictator.

. Yes, it is, if you have a heart and are not selfish to the fate of others. You and the other paulities are real cold-hearted people with no conscience.

If the people want freedom, they will eventually decide to TAKE IT, just like we did.

Not if they don't have any guns and the other side has all the weapons. There will be much less human death if the US goes in quickly and takes out the dictator and be done with it. Your appeasement at all costs actually costs many more lives in the long run, not to mention a LOT more human suffering by the subjugated citizens.

And by the way, the freedoms we have ARE God given. Our Constitution was written so that our government would protect those God given rights.

And you don't want to help anyone else have a chance at the same kind of government? Boy, you are selfish!

Yep, you really demolished me.

I sure did. Anywhere, anytime, you loser pacifist.

35 posted on 07/30/2008 5:31:46 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan (Fight Socialism! Vote McCain '08!)
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To: messierhunter

Surgical strike and pacifist don’t go together.


36 posted on 07/30/2008 5:31:59 PM PDT by rightwinghour (http://rightwinghour.podbean.com/)
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To: rightwinghour

Why not go back to your original fascist site.
FR has been up since the late 1990s why waite until a few weeks ago to sign up.

9/11 Truther Alex Jones and Storm Front are backers of L Ron Paul

L Ron Paul, ACLU employee Bobby Barr and WackO Baldwin are all certifiable for the NP Ward.


37 posted on 07/30/2008 5:34:31 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: rightwinghour

Congress is permitted to borrow money on the credit of the United States. In 1871, when deciding Knox v. Lee, the [Supreme] Court ruled that this clause permitted Congress to emit bills and make them legal tender in satisfaction of debts.

Read and understand your history, you ignorant sack of Rupaul puke.


38 posted on 07/30/2008 5:37:44 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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Ron Paul or no Ron Paul it should be obvious from reading about WWII that before it ended the internal leadership (higher ups and military leadership) of the US changed their policy to strong military defense permanently, and would never be caught flat footed again at the start of a war.

This meant a need for a constant flow of Money (higher taxes) for R&D, Intel, Ground forces etc.

This along with the realization of advancing technology with weapons able to do lethal damage from thousands of miles away have changed everything in the world. Gone are the days of non involvement defensively in the world.

I think many ppl confuse these realities with Imperialism. After the damage in WWII to so many countries, America was the only one strong enough to fill the role we now play. FDR was in constant conflict with Churchill, trying to convince him that Imperialism was over.

I was a Fred Thompson supporter, but I like Ron Paul alot. I can disagree with him on some things, but agree with him on many more. He's worthy of listening to by all Americans.

39 posted on 07/30/2008 5:39:44 PM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: rightwinghour; All

How in the hell could we have avoided WWII you idiot???


40 posted on 07/30/2008 5:40:24 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Hey Barak... I'm a citizen of the US not the WORLD!!!!!)
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