Posted on 05/20/2008 11:07:11 AM PDT by mmp813
Power acquisition.
Is this a vanity post?
If this is an article, you need to post a reference & a link.
Hey if business did not give them jobs or Bush enforced the border, illegals wouldn’t be here. You’re focused on the wrong cause.
I’m Catholic and I agree with you 100%
Now join me as I don my Nomex undergarments. The “Church Can Do No Wrong” crew will be here shortly.
Is this a Blog?
Correct on all counts.
Two divergent causes, a Govt that is “Supposed” to enforce it’s laws, and a Church that is serving God’s laws.
The two will naturally come into conflict, the Church is not above the law, and the Govt has it’s own job to do.
I’m in a Slovak Catholic church, we have Tons of immigrants, all of them did the paperwork, paid the $$$ and waited to be allowed to stay here. Many have relatives waiting and praying to be accepted here. They submit paperwork at 120.00 a pop, non-refundable only to be turned down and start again. A good wage in Slovakia is 6000.00 a year.
I get ticked when ANY one stands for Illegals.
Let those people get in the grocery store line and have someone “cut” then see the fit they have!!!!!!
The Church is a world-wode body that has outlasted all other governments, so its opinion should not be taken lightly.
The Church rightly urges all wealthy nations to welcome the poor of other nations to share in the abundance. That is what Christians do.
The Church is not responsible for the lack of enforcement of our laws. Our culture has invited these immigrants in, despite the pretense of our laws that they are unwelcome.
The Official Catholic Church position on this is not the only Christian Chruch which is wrong. We also have the Quakers, Methodists, and others who support this and are part of the “sanctuary” movement.
Nor is this the ONLY issue where Christian Churches have nce again, broken with their antecedents and worked to undermine western civilization. Most of these groups are also doctrinally obligate pacifists or have become so infuenced by the anti-war movement that they are ostensibly so. They are often also opposed to the Second Amendment and to things like Initiative and Referendum.
It is no accident that Islam is making inroads in the west as the western Christian Churches become increasingly politicized leftwards and consequently loose the support of their bases.
>>The Church is not responsible for the lack of enforcement of our laws. Our culture has invited these immigrants in, despite the pretense of our laws that they are unwelcome.<<
What about the Slovak Catholics waiting that are being denied because the illegals are waltzing in?
Why isn’t our church standing for them? Or the Poles?
My Mom came here legally as well. Three years of paperwork, waiting, and guarantees by a sponsor that she wouldn’t be a burden to the taxpayers. That was in 1959. She became a citizen in 1965.
God Love your Mom!!!!
Took longer than I thought for the first “Church Trumps US Citizens Wishes And Rights” post.
The Church is WRONG on this one. Period.
It is the french style of governance.
When the mob can protest enough it is treated as a referendum in parlamentary forms of government.
Natural Law states Freedom of Movement of Goods, Capital and People. Everything else are fantasies that only a huge amount of money can build for some time.
The Catholic Church is right.
There, fixed it for you.
“Recently, during the Pope’s visit, he took exception to the United States border policy expressing that it lacked sensitivity for the needs of the less fortunate”
Then he should have no problem funding them immigrating to Rome.
>>“Recently, during the Pope’s visit, he took exception to the United States border policy expressing that it lacked sensitivity for the needs of the less fortunate”<<
Actually, no one has been able to find a direct quote on this. The story came from an NPR article and there was a big whoopla connected with it when the Pope was here.
The Catholics asked for a direct quote. No one could find anything but a paraphrase by NPR. I’m not sure I trust them.
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