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1 posted on 05/07/2008 3:37:06 PM PDT by John Semmens
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Speaking of Nancy Pelosi, this post (<-click) helps to explain why Pelosi has no business being in government at all.
22 posted on 05/07/2008 4:07:10 PM PDT by Amendment10
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The Court’s decision places obstacles to the fundamental rights of the people, especially the ignorant, the undocumented, and the inanimate

This has got to be satire.

23 posted on 05/07/2008 4:15:18 PM PDT by Doohickey (I'd rather be free than have the government keep me "safe".)
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You really stagger on that line between satire and reality, John.


26 posted on 05/07/2008 4:52:37 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Out of chaos comes comedy.)
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The Court’s decision places obstacles to the fundamental rights of the people, especially the ignorant, the undocumented, and the inanimate—the very people whose circumstances tend to impede their ability to register or cast a vote,” Pelosi complained. “The right to vote is a foundation of our democracy. Everyone who wishes to vote must be allowed to do so.”

Hate to break the news to that Botox faced imbecile, but the the Founders never intended for the people who could put Obama in the White House and gave the Democrats a majority in Congress to have the right to vote in the first place, and indeed when the Republic was founded, and for the first 150 years of its existence, they didn't.

Constitutional amendments 15,19,24,and 26 expanded the right to vote to exactly the types of people Adams and the Founders warned against. Now it is not a matter of if the Republic will fall, but only of when.

This is a mess of our own making. Pelosi is either ignorant of the intent of the Founders or is advocating the undoing of what they stood for.Not content with the damage to the nation already inflicted, this beast actually advocates expanding the right to the "undocumented"

John Adams to James Sullivan on women, the poor, and voting rights

May 26, 1776

[Adams explains why women, children, and the poor are excluded from the vote. — TGW]

It is certain in theory, that the only moral foundation of government is the consent of the people. But to what an extent shall we carry this principle? Shall we say, that every individual of the community, old and young, male and female, as well as rich and poor, must consent, expressly, to every act of legislation? No, you will say. This is impossible. How then does the right arise in the majority to govern the minority, against their will? Whence arises the right of the men to govern women, without their consent? Whence the right of the old to bind the young, without theirs?

But let us first suppose, that the whole community of every age, rank, sex, and condition, has a right to vote. This community, is assembled—a motion is made and carried by a majority of one voice. The minority will not agree to this. Whence arises the right of the majority to govern, and the obligation of the minority to obey? from necessity, you will say, because there can be no other rule.

But why exclude women? You will say, because their delicacy renders them unfit for practice and experience, in the great business of life, and the hardy enterprises of war, as well as the arduous cares of state. Besides, their attention is so much engaged with the necessary nurture of their children, that nature has made them fittest for domestic cares. And children have not judgment or will of their own. True. But will not these reasons apply to others?

Is it not equally true, that men in general in every society, who are wholly destitute of property, are also too little acquainted with public affairs to form a right judgment, and too dependent upon other men to have a will of their own?

If this is a fact, if you give to every man, who has no property, a vote, will you not make a fine encouraging provision for corruption by your fundamental law?Such is the frailty of the human heart, that very few men, who have no property, have any judgment of their own. They talk and vote as they are directed by some man of property, who has attached their minds to his interest…

I should think that wisdom and policy would dictate in these times, to be very cautious of making alterations. Our people have never been very rigid in scrutinizing into the qualifications of voters, and I presume they will not now begin to be so. But I would not advise them to make any alteration in the laws, at present, respecting the qualifications of voters.

Your idea, that those laws, which affect the lives and personal liberty of all, or which inflict corporal punishment, affect those, who are not qualified to vote, as well as those who are, is just. But, so they do women, as well as men, children as well as adults. What reason should there be, for excluding a man of twenty years, Eleven months and twenty-seven days old, from a vote when you admit one, who is twenty one? The reason is, you must fix upon some period in life, when the understanding and will of men in general is fit to be trusted by the public. Will not the same reason justify the state in fixing upon some certain quantity of property, as a qualification.

The same reasoning, which will induce you to admit all men, who have no property, to vote, with those who have, for those laws, which affect the person will prove that you ought to admit women and children: for generally speaking, women and children, have as good judgment, and as independent minds as those men who are wholly destitute of property: these last being to all intents and purposes as much dependent upon others, who will please to feed, clothe, and employ them, as women are upon their husbands, or children on their parents…

Society can be governed only by general rules. Government cannot accommodate itself to every particular case, as it happens, nor to the circumstances of particular persons. It must establish general, comprehensive regulations for cases and persons. The only question is, which general rule, will accommodate most cases and most persons.

Depend upon it, sir, it is dangerous to open so fruitful a source of controversy and altercation, as would be opened by attempting to alter the qualifications of voters. There will be no end of it. New claims will arise. Women will demand a vote. Lads from 12 to 21 will think their rights not enough attended to, and every man, who has not a farthing, will demand an equal voice with any other in all acts of state. It tends to confound and destroy all distinctions, and prostrate all ranks, to one common level.

27 posted on 05/07/2008 5:07:28 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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By definition a democratic vote excludes those who are not citizens. Otherwise you disenfranchise the very people who are supposed to be represented. It's amazing it took this long to have a positive outcome in court. I feel truly disenfranchised the longer I live.
31 posted on 05/08/2008 1:07:05 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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