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The Risk Economy
Kunstler.com ^ | May 5, 2008 | James Howard Kunstler

Posted on 05/05/2008 5:43:20 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: AndyJackson

No answer? LOL!


21 posted on 05/05/2008 9:15:39 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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"...why the FED is buying up stuff..."

This sounds like a great question.  I'll be happy to offer an explanation of why the Fed's buying something, but first you'll need to tell us if you're talking about the Fed loaning money or guaranteeing other people's loans.  If there's a case where the Fed's actually buying something, please tell us just what it is.

Thanks.

22 posted on 05/06/2008 3:37:45 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL!


23 posted on 05/06/2008 6:31:17 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Poor Andy, so many stupid comments, so little time. LOL!
24 posted on 05/06/2008 6:46:58 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Poor Todd. Knows everything. Is wise about nothing.


25 posted on 05/07/2008 5:58:12 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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I'm just glad we could show you that M2 can grow without the help of the Fed. That MZM can grow even if the Fed holds M1 steady.
26 posted on 05/07/2008 6:02:29 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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That MZM can grow even if the Fed holds M1 steady.

That was never disputed.

I'm just glad we could show you that M2 can grow without the help of the Fed

We are just going to have to continue to disagree on this point. Sure if there are excess reserves lending can expand, but the banking system does not generate legal tender (money acceptable by the US government to settle government debts) all on its own without the FED.

Finally, I think you will subscribe to the previously agreed upon point that banks cannot lend money that is not somehow or other on deposit with the bank, i.e. if my customers deposit $1,000,000, I the bank will go bankrupt when I attempt to issue $2,000,000 in checks for deposit in other banks based on loans that I attempt to originate.

27 posted on 05/07/2008 12:50:10 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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That MZM can grow even if the Fed holds M1 steady.

That was never disputed.

Except by you.

I'm just glad we could show you that M2 can grow without the help of the Fed

Sure if there are excess reserves lending can expand

Excellent!

Finally, I think you will subscribe to the previously agreed upon point that banks cannot lend money that is not somehow or other on deposit with the bank, i.e. if my customers deposit $1,000,000, I the bank will go bankrupt when I attempt to issue $2,000,000 in checks for deposit in other banks based on loans that I attempt to originate.

As I've said over and over, banks can't lend out money they don't have on deposit (unless they borrow).

Glad you understand now that M2 and MZM can grow when new loans are made. Even if the Fed doesn't lift a finger. It was hard work but you finally learned something new. I'm glad I could help :^)

28 posted on 05/07/2008 1:43:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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