Posted on 04/11/2008 12:16:58 PM PDT by CottShop
I was a COBOL programmer for 21 years. COBOL is the language in which most of the programs I created and modified are written. I compare DNA to a computer program and use COBOL as my model since it is what I know best.
A couple of years ago I read an article that said it had been discovered that the same DNA information found in different organisms seemed to be interpreted differently for each species and they discovered that there was actually something like a part of the DNA that was a different code which affected how the DNA code was actually interpreted when put to use.
JCL means Job Control Language. It is literally another sort of code that tells a mainframe how to run a job. It can be very simple or extremely complex. In a simple form it can, at a high level, say “run program “X” and when it refers to dataset “ABC”, as input use dataset “CYZ”. It can be much more sophisticated than that, but that is the general gist. You can actually write a COBOL program that gets some of its instructions loaded from datasets inclued in the JCL giving wildly different results when the program actually runs.
The JCL can drastically modify how a program affects the data it modifies, outputs or otherwise affects.
DNA turns out to include a computer program as well as ANOTHER program telling it how to run the program.
The fact that every living thing has within every cell a full sophisticated program to create a duplicate of itself as well as another program telling that program how to run. It is more sophisticated and has more dramatic results than ANYTHING man can even imagine.
If that is not intelligent design, NOTHING is.
I agree with all that Dmitry
[[I wonder what proof, or means of revelation, of God’s existence would be a sufficient showing such that no one could doubt His existence ever again. I suspect that there is nothing that could convince everyone, in our present human state.]
You bring up a very good point for hte hardcore unbelievers- No amount of proof would ever be enough because quite frankly, they would explain eeven them ost spectacular indisputable proofs away using some kind of twisted logics.
[[so He made us with inquiring, creative minds (in His image?) with an internal need for fulfillment, which could only be satisfied by faith in Him. ]]
This is what I’m searchign for right there- I’ve almost got my finger on the issue- but it escapes me like fog through the fingers.
I think part of hte issue is that God has remained hideen not so much for the sake of the unbelievers, but for hte believers, as the last post I made to all touched on how we would be overwhelmed if we started off with more- We might just walk away if we say the perfection of God and our stand with Him all at once
Your imperfection analogy is quite appropoe here- and odn’t worry- you do make God smile-
Rob- thanks for describing that- I’ve always said that the deeper we look into the ‘simplest’ constructs of design in nature, the more we will realize just how designed and complex it really is- Even substructures like cell membranes involve instructions that allow certain elements to itneract with the membrane, and if somethign goes awry in just the membrane instrauctions, the whole cell is doomed- How many billions of years would it have taken the mythical process of Macroeovlution to self-organize such a construciton as even these simplest elements of design? And they want us to beleive trillions of immensely more complex IC systems evovled in a relatively short time? Nope- don’t htink so
Like the JCL- each ‘simple element’ in life’s most basic and ‘primitive’ systems is immensely complex and delicate- one little glitch in the JCL of Design, and the superstructures simply fall apart- can’t exist- Everythign is too delicately balanced and fine tuned by a designer that obviously knew what He was doing.
Thank you for your post and explaining the JCL- fits perfectly wwith the design illustration.
Billions of year is exactly what we have. Just think of that, One Billion Years. You call that relatively short term? Just look around the last 500,000 or 5,000,000 years (a mere drop in the Billion Year March) and the amazing things that have happened since. Human evolution has advanced leaps and bounds. Other animal and plant species have come and gone. Advances in the ability to adapt are more remarkable today than ever in the evolution of Planet Earth.
Billions of years to assemble complex chemical interactions? You bet. But I’ll give you this one... I believe in the innoculation theory. That perhaps 5 or 6 Billion Years was not enough to create amazingly complex organisms. Perhaps the universe is 100 Billion Years Old and that “DNA” made it to Planet Earth by mere chance of a colliding asteroid from a system far, far from here.
That possibility seems just as credible as God poofing us into place one day.
JCL and COBOL to explain how eyeballs work? Come on - that’s pretty lame. But Billions and Billions of Years of random actions - that makes the most sense to me. Ever look at viruses? Pretty simple things. It’s crazy how they spread so fast...
billions eh? Well- you’re welcoem to your assumptions- as for me- I’ll stick with annalyzing hte evidnece- not basing my belief on other people’s assumptions about how long hte earth was around- and I’ll be making my determinations based on the scientific facts- Macroeovlution is biologically impossible- this isn’t an opinion- this isn’t an assumption- this is pure sicentific fact
“I suppose a lot of people wonder why a loving God would keep Himself so hidden and unseen when so many people it seems are looking for Him.”
I’m sure the Almighty wishes this (that so many people are looking for Him) were so.
there are quite a few- there are currently 2.6 or so billion people who call themselves Christians, with a large majority describing htemselves as ‘born again’ Christians- that’s about 1/3 the population of hte world- but you’re right, it should be more
I’m assuming you’re joking. Macroevolution not possible? What scientific evidence do you have for that? Macroevolution is simply the addition of lots of microevolutionary events. Microevolution not possible too? If you believe that evolution on any level doesn’t exist, then I too will go with the evidence - you and the people that think like you are religious lemmings.
Good luck providing evidence on the Man Poofing Theory. Oh, and that Dinosaurs never existed either. LOL!
[[you and the people that think like you are religious lemmings.]
You’ve brought so much to the conversation- Brilliant rebuttle- Wow! Such insight and intellect!
[[Microevolution not possible too?]
Obviously you didn’t carefully read my article- What else do you not carefully read? Science perhaps? Because if you had- you would know that MACROEvolution and MICROEvolution are two entirely different biological issues- and no- your claim is scientifically false- the two are NOT related or the same events- one does not just magically arise from accumulations of of hte other- Macroevolution is biologically impossible- funny how you call others lemmings when you don’t even understand hte fundamental biological differences and just simply accept what macroevolutionists falsely tell you.
[[ Oh, and that Dinosaurs never existed either.]
Keep laughing sonny- you’re revealing your true intellect- Noone has ever stated dinos didn’t exist.
But thanks ever so much for dropping by and contributing exactly nothign relevent to this topic
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