"A Republic, If You Can Keep It" - First Call

3/26/2008

[Mr. Silverback]

I've seen nothing to convince me that McCain is not as inept as the other two, especially in his last eight years. This is a man that does not even know the difference between Sunni and Shia. How can I trust him to navigate Iraq, Iran, or Lebanon? I am not saying the other two are better. They are all three inept.

At this point in the year 2000, George W. Bush didn't know who the president of Pakistan was, but Al Gore did. Who would have been the better Commander-in-Chief?

McCain made a minor mistake, the kind of "misspeaking" Hillary claims she was doing when she claimed to have been under sniper fire in Bosnia and the kind i hear commentators and experts make all the time when talking about the region, because it's hard to keep all the crazies straight. But he does understand crucial things about wars (like, it's a good idea to win them) that are beyond either of his opponents. They both want to withdraw from Iraq precipitously, fail to conduct good intel, and treat the most dangerous thugs on the planet like honored guests. These morons really believe that not kissing up to Mahmoud Ahmadinajad is a real foreign policy failure.

To continue the dog metaphor, we're auditioning guard dogs and we have a choice between two chihuahuas and a Rottweiler who whizzes on the carpet occasionally. I'm taking the Rottweiler.

[Content Provider]

The problem with this particular Rottweiler is its strong inclination to attack its master.

[gidget7]

See post #37

[Mr. Silverback]

I have a choice between getting some good or all bad, a president who's wrong on some isses or a president who is wrong on every issue. For some that's an easy choice. For some it's an invitation to march off a cliff and call themselves principled.

[donna]

If you refuse to include Christians, then McCain is for you.

[Content Provider]

I understand your position, and find your passion admirable. However, if you review the materials collected and linked in my initial message, I believe you will come to understand, as I did, that the good in McCain is illusory, a product of wishful thinking, and based only in undeserved inference by the party tag he deceptively wears.

[Mr. Silverback]

We need a bottoms up approach. We have to take the GOP back and have conservatives run it again.

So, let me get this straight: Even though such a grass-roots, bottom-up approach is exactly how we took the party away from the country clubbers back in the days of Gerald Ford, we should only try it now if we have a Democrat in office? We have to do it whether McCain wins or not, so why not get a guy with a clue about the war?

[hunter112]

I applaud your efforts to find another nominee at the Republican convention, however, I believe the fix is in. We true conservatives need to concentrate our money, efforts, and persuasive abilities to get a Republican Congress elected this year. It will be the only safeguard against the coming socialist president.

In my opinion, it will be easier to do this if the Witch is the Rat nominee, many more people in the red states fear her than Obamanation. We need to recapture the seats in the House that went Rat in the last couple of elections, especially in the red states that have the most to lose from a DemonRat administration. When the Beest has to fight both the united Republicans who have shed their RINOs, and the powerfully disgruntled moonbat left that is the Obama base, she won't get squat done.

Sometimes you have to go through a Jimmy Carter to get to a Ronald Reagan.

[Ethrane]

thanks gidget... Another conservative running for Congress is a personal friend of mine: http://www.andyharris08.org/ This is the kind of man we need in Congress...

[gidget7]

Thanks, I will check out that site tomorrow!

[Content Provider]

If I could prove to you that McCain’s top priority is not the war, but global warming, would you then consent to at least review the remainder of the information?

[Mr. Silverback]

There’s no way it’s going to happen. If we want conservatives we need to focus downticket.

[MountainFlower]

I understand your approach, but I am not sure that the GOP can be saved any more. It will take too much time to try to start from the bottom and move up... that would, in reality mean starting at the state level. There isn’t enough frustration at that level for people to be moved to action. Trying to take it back in DC in the House and Senate, again...means you have to have enough people upset about those who are currently representing them. I don’t think it can be saved that way...though I understand your approach. I think the message needs to be sent LOUD and CLEAR, NOW that we are fed up with the GOP and their pseudo-options, MHO.

[Mr. Silverback]

I don’t see how we win the war with our borders wide open to any enemy attack, especially given our experience with the methods of operation of our enemies. It is primarily but not solely for this reason that I find McCain wholly unsuitable as a Commander in Chief.

This may be news to you, but one of the following people will be the President of the United States at this time next year: John McCain, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

In other words, we will have a president next year who was in favor of the McCain Amnesty last year. That won't be a change.

So, we can either have a president who believes in amnesty, victory over terrorists and the homeland security methods that have been working so far (like wiretaps) or we can have a president who believes in amnesty, losing to Al Qaida abroad, making nice-nice to people like Ahmadinejad and throwing terrorist surveillance in the round file.

BTW, based on your second paragraph, I'm beginning to think you're probably one of the seminar posters we've been seeing on the site lately who are trying to run a mirror image of Limbaugh's Operation Chaos over here on our side of the house. Sorry, not buying it.

[Content Provider]

The options are not mutually exclusive. I suggest we pursue both.

One thing to keep in mind is that the downticket races will be negatively affected in the extreme by a candidate at the top of the ticket who opposes all they stand for. It will be a very difficult election season if all our House candidates have to spend the entire time arguing against their own candidate for President.

[Mr. Silverback]

I think I see where you’re coming from. Like I said, I highly respect Dobson, I just think he really messed up.

[EternalVigilance]

On the presidential level this year, I will be voting for a republican, but not for a Republican.

Down ticket, there will be some Republicans that earn my support, because they are republicans. I will help them in spite of their party registration, not because of it.

I’m done with the Republican Party. It is no longer a vehicle to promote the principles this republic was built on. Instead, it’s now owned and operated by George Soros and his minions.

But I will always be a republican until my dying day.

[gogogodzilla]

Maybe we can get Nyarlathotep to be his running mate?

[Prokopton]

If we want conservatives we need to focus downticket.

There should be a national clearinghouse for people to support conservative candidates across the Country. I would rather spend my money to get a conservative elected in another state than a RINO in my own. We must think nationally, much like Soros and the liberals do, and support those who believe as we do wherever they are.

Only by getting more conservatives into office will we be able to change the course of our Country. Our present state of affairs is proof of the foolishness of supporting Republicans even if they're liberal. We all have limited resources and they must be used in a coordinated effort to "keep" our Republic.

[JSDude1]

I disagree, it's not throwing yourself off a cliff if the person holding the bayonet to your throat (the Republican defenders and the Rino candidates and their supporters are pushing you away- “VOTE OR DIE”, I though that was a Democratic proposal)—I see that Rinos and Rockefeller Republicans are just as willing to use this logic. With all due respect, I don't OWE my vote to the Republican candidate they must earn it, they should be servants just like Glenn Beck stated on his recent program!

That said there is a 10% Chance I will vote for McCain your logic you stated, but a 90% Chance I won't because of all the Un-Conservative RINO things he's done and continues to say/do!