Posted on 12/26/2007 9:26:27 PM PST by stainlessbanner
Hate to bust your bubble, Billy, but the states had ALREADY SECEDED when they entered into a “confederation”....so those sections don’t apply, AND you still haven’t shown me where the Constitution prohibits secession.
There is nothing in the Constitution to PROHIBIT any state from leaving the Union whenever they wanted to.
(and STILL isn’t!)
No they didn't. They objected to a "foreign post" in their illegal country.
What are you 12? Just because you don't like the government doesn't mean you can up and create your own country. If you do, expect a bloody fight.
Even Gandhi (one of the most peaceful and pacifist man in history) couldn't deal with the riots and hatred and split up Pakistan and India. And both of these countries are STILL not happy about that.
What the heck, we might as well give Louis Farrakhan his own country within America because the "black people" feel the system is letting them down... You do see my point right?
The decision to leave the Union was made by the people of the respective states. In Texas, for example, the vote was overwhelmingly in favor of secession. Do you deny the right of the electorate to decide their own fate? That is one of the basic rights of all men!
By the way, the decision to fire on Ft. Sumter wasn’t made until Lincoln decided to resupply with food and weapons!
A country formed by the will of the electorate isn’t “illegal”.....
I give up. Ping?
Ron Paul is right about almost everything he says- as long as it has NOTHING to do with foreign policy.
Funny you should say that- one could argue that's exactly what Lincoln did.
Ron Paul Is a Geroge Soros plant from the left wing wacko group moveon, he is not our candidate.
You'd have to show by research, I think, that the Republicans had a coherent industrial policy in mind, one, and that, secondly, they made medicine to precipitate a constitutional crisis -- and win it politically or militarily -- which would allow them to recast the federal Union in such a way as to empower the federal government to impose that policy over the objections of the Southern States.
Which is what happened, so it isn't hard to argue that some farsighted Republican(s) might have entertained a long view even before the war, that anticipated much of what followed.
Which, if shown, would damn them as war criminals.
So let's have a world empire on principle, because it's good for us, and to hell with anyone who wants an independent country.
It is amazing how much this poll and this map have changed since you first posted it.
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