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The Third Battle of Fallujah: "This case must be pickle loaf"
Defend Our Marines ^ | August 20, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 08/21/2007 8:16:58 AM PDT by RedRover

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Nat Helms is a Contributing Editor to Defend Our Marines. He is a Vietnam vet, journalist, combat reporter, and, most recently, author of My Men Are My Heroes: The Brad Kasal Story (Meredith Books, 2007)
1 posted on 08/21/2007 8:17:05 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: Girlene; usmcobra; jazusamo; lilycicero; brityank; 4woodenboats; gardencatz; xzins; Dick Vomer; ...
Fallujah 04 investigation ping!

2 posted on 08/21/2007 8:20:55 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
there is something wrong at NCIS and JAG.

What is going on?

Who the f#ck believes muzzies who'd show women holding up cartridges and claiming they were shot at her house? Who kill babies and then blame it on us. Who hide behind civilians then blame us. Who hide in mosques but claim that they are holy sites that can't be used, but use them anyway and blame us for blowing them up.

This world has gone mad.

3 posted on 08/21/2007 8:25:34 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: RedRover
The Feds love Grand Juries because it spreads the responsibility for errors around.

Their first error was charging this Marine hero with a supposed crime from three years ago while he put his life on the line for our country. I believe we'll see more errors by the Feds and hopefully those errors will expose their and the NCIS's apparent agenda.

4 posted on 08/21/2007 8:43:24 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; All

Excellent thread. Hopefully the # of views, will match the # of posts. If you are a Freeper reading this thread, don’t be shy. Tell us what you think of the treatment of the Marines and former Marines.


5 posted on 08/21/2007 8:44:06 AM PDT by lilycicero (Save a Marine today....defendourmarines.com)
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; freema; Blue Ribbon Mom; lilycicero; smoothsailing; ...
Here's my take, Lily:

I work for a subsidiary of a company from one of America's success stories; I've worked with others who are from another of her success stories; and I am currently watching her latest success story in a PIP on my computer of NASA. Japan, my company's home, and Germany would not be the democracies or have the freedom they have today were it not for America spending her treasure and blood to provide and share that freedom.

Damn straight I'll bitch about this government, but I'm also damn proud that I have had a small part in keeping it on track, along with the rest of my Navy and military brethren, and especially our Marines.

Semper Fi !

6 posted on 08/21/2007 9:05:51 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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The NCIS charged Nazario in civilian court after he was honorably discharged from the Marine Corps following eight years of service. There is no convening authority in the matter within the Marine Corps despite NCIS knowing of the allegations since November 2006. Because the prosecution is not talking, it is unclear whose interests the government is representing. So far the only clear benefactor of this freelancing NCIS effort is the Iraqi insurgency. ...

Well, a Marine Corps spokesman Lt. Col. Chris Hughes had this to say, "Our message is to tell the citizens of the United States and the citizens of Iraq that we will fully investigate these matters and hold our own people accountable. But we also stress that this Marine is innocent until proven guilty." from North County Times
7 posted on 08/21/2007 9:06:23 AM PDT by Girlene
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Tell us what you think......

Like anyone with a sense of decency and fair play, I think this bites!

Find the author of that question on the polygraph test and maybe we'd find a piece of the circle that's trying to take down the Marine Corps.

Good article, Red.

8 posted on 08/21/2007 9:20:48 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: lilycicero

;)


9 posted on 08/21/2007 9:37:07 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: All

In case it isn’t clear, the photo above from the UAV is a thumbnail. Click to enlarge.


10 posted on 08/21/2007 9:39:23 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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So is Nazario’s case murder or war – only time will tell.

Prosecutor at trial to witness: Did you see anyone killed?

Yep, a whole city of insurgents.

If you are in a city where everyone is an insurgent, because the civilians have been warned away, and you capture insurgents, what do you do with them:

1. You can't escort them to the rear because your life depends on keeping every bit of firepower you've got.

2. You can't tie them up and move on because they will probably be untied and returned to fighting against you, AND they will know your whereabouts.

3. You've got to make a decision NOW, because the threat requires your constant attention and you've got to move NOW.

4. You can't take them with you because they'll give you away to the enemy.

Does that begin to sound like your life or theirs? It sure does.

Soldiers need a knockout drug issued to them for just this kind of case. It needs to be effective for 8 to 12 hours. Even with it, though, these guys go back to fighting against you.

11 posted on 08/21/2007 9:43:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Girlene
“This case must be pickle loaf.”

The NCIS needs to let their pickle loaf.

12 posted on 08/21/2007 10:09:49 AM PDT by lilycicero (Meat loaf works too.)
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Girlene! Cover your eyes! Lily’s getting smutty!


13 posted on 08/21/2007 10:31:56 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Dick Vomer
there is something wrong at NCIS and JAG.
What is going on?


To paraphrase from a famous war movie:

NCIS and JAG are more concerned about being Allies than being Americans
14 posted on 08/21/2007 10:37:53 AM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: xzins
1. You can't escort them to the rear because your life depends on keeping every bit of firepower you've got. 2. You can't tie them up and move on because they will probably be untied and returned to fighting against you, AND they will know your whereabouts. 3. You've got to make a decision NOW, because the threat requires your constant attention and you've got to move NOW. 4. You can't take them with you because they'll give you away to the enemy. Does that begin to sound like your life or theirs? It sure does.

Not picking a fight but those at Malamdy could make the same argument
15 posted on 08/21/2007 10:46:01 AM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: RedMonqey

What do you think of the knockout drug solution?


16 posted on 08/21/2007 10:50:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: RedMonqey
...those at Malmédy could make the same argument.

They could try, but it would be really, really stupid.

17 posted on 08/21/2007 11:03:39 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; lilycicero; Girlene

Girlene,

It wasn’t me. Red is me and I am Red. So me (Red) really posted this and the pickle smut using innocent LC’s password to post.


18 posted on 08/21/2007 11:07:05 AM PDT by lilycicero (Wok your dog.)
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Girlene! Cover your eyes! Lily’s getting smutty!

That's okay. Lily knows I never get the smutty part. Goes right over my head.
19 posted on 08/21/2007 11:09:37 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene
Goes right over my head

Well whatcha lying down for?

20 posted on 08/21/2007 11:23:44 AM PDT by lilycicero (Pickle sale at your AAFES commissary.)
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