WMDs in Iraq - VIDEO footage

VIDEO ^ | 08 / 07 2007 | drzz

[drzz]

What sort of troll are you ?

[Vanbasten]

I’m sure it was a humanitarian mission...LOL!

Such is the nature of intelligence, we can only speculate. Ruling out that these were weapons shipments is tantamount to sticking your head in the sand.

The problem with all you ‘there were no WMD’s’ people is that you don’t know one way or another...you only pretend to know, and in the process ignore decades of intelligence.

[Tommyjo]

You are aware that this is a short-range battlefield rocket. Iraq was allowed to have them.

Do you honestly think that Iraq would parade a missile that they were not allowed to legally operate?

Iraq was legally allowed to have them if they operated under a pre-set limit. Iraq fired scores of them at Coaltion forces during 2003. None of them were Scuds or Scud derivatives. Evey single missile fired by Iraq were all found to have been SRBMs.

[hiredhand]

I was being sarcastic. :-) Of course the current administration can't admit that it knows where the weapons are, because then they'd have to make good on their word with respect to those who harbor terrorists and take action against Syria (and probably Lebanon too).

...and so we play the "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" game.

I had some "interesting" jobs during my 13 year stint as USAF/AD and although I can't disclose much, and will neither confirm nor deny... vehicles, people, and mechanized weapon systems are easy for us to identify track, and target from space.

I'm having difficulty trying to determine what the value was in letting the weapons move occur though. Have you read Isiah 17? He basically writes that Damascus will become a "ruinous heap". Damascus is the longest continuously occupied city in the history of this planet. It was founded by one of Noah's grandsons (Ur I "think"). It's NEVER been unoccupied by people, so it's destruction must be in the future. With what's been boiling over in the middle east in our lifetimes, along with modern weapons and their capacity of destruction we (and others) have the capability of destroying cities such as Damascus, whereas in times past, only God could do such things.

So if we all "see" Damascus become a "smoking hole", we'll know that we also saw Isiah 17 come to pass.

[drzz]

“”The chemical section (of the ISG report) reports that the M16 Directorate “had a plan to produce and weaponize nitrogen mustard in rifle grenades and a plan to bottle sarin and sulfur mustard in perfume sprayers and medicine bottles which they would ship to the United States and Europe.” Are we to believe this plan existed because they liked us? Or did they wish to do us harm? The major threat posed by Iraq, in my opinion, was the support it gave to terrorists in general, and its own terrorist activity.”

“Richard Spertzel, Wall Street Journal, 2004
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/8195

[hiredhand]

Actually, you have no idea what I saw.

[drzz]

“You are aware that this is a short-range battlefield rocket. Iraq was allowed to have them.”

Thank you, now you can get back to school and learn to recognize long range missiles from short range. Could be great you finally understand the difference.

I did in the army.

As for intelligence : The American experts observed a parade of the Baath Party in January 2002 which showed unconventional weapons which disappeared since the beginning of the war, in March 2003, and which are still untraceable. (Richard Miniter, 22 myths that undermine the War one Terror, Regnery, 2005, p. 104)

[hiredhand]

Yes, that's right. There was concern and questions about the Russian diplomats dying in the strike. People wanted to know what they were doing there. Diplomats my ass! It's a reasonably common practice to issue diplomatic passports to SOPs folks and carry goodies in the little bag. The MSM knows that if they don't talk about it, enough of the sheep will stop thinking about it.

[drzz]

Spell with me : “The American experts observed a parade of the Baath Party in January 2002 which showed unconventional weapons”

[ravingnutter]

And your point is? Duelfer also said:

In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation,"

Then there are 6 other experts quoted in that post as well, but you pick out one line that fits your view and discount the rest? Now that's got me ROTFLMAO!

[Vanbasten]

Thanks for the link, and I agree with the terrorist connection as far as the threat he posed. Strange that there is more belief in Saddam’s innocence than belief in our own country’s innocence.

[hiredhand]

I seem to remember that strike being carried out by helo gunships. Do you remember? Also, I remember it being called off after it was discovered there were "foreign" uniforms (non Iraqi) in the fray on the ground in that convoy.

[drzz]

Strange that there is more than half of America ready to create the new USA : Unconditionnal Surrender of America

[colt1911]

Iraq was allowed to have missiles below a range limit set by the UN (I don’t recall the exact number). When OIF kicked off, Iraq fired numerous missiles at targets in the Kuwait City area. The calculated range from the launch point to the intended target exceeded the maximum range for missiles Iraq was allowed to have. I know-I was there serving in a missile defense headquarters and some of those missiles were targeted at where I was sitting!

[logician2u]

No, You're not the only one. I also remember all the fuss about those truck convoys in western Iraq.

I don't recall that anyone said for sure what the trucks were carrying, though.

<donning tin foil hat> And I'm still waiting for someone to tell me where those three ships carrying WMDs disappeared to.

[Tommyjo]

The missile in the video is an Ababil-100. Scores of Ababil-100s were found as the Coalition entered Iraq. ALL of these Ababil-100s Iraq was legally allowed to own and operate. This was under UN Security Council Resolution 687. You know that resolution that the Coalition agreed on?

It was missiles such as the Al Hussein that Iraq was not allowed to have. The Al Hussein was based on the SCUD and weapons in the medium-range that Iraq was not allowed to have. It was SCUD based weapons and extended-range variants that hit Israel during 1991.

The Ababil was very well known to the U.N. Inspectors. All of these weapons were legal and tagged and recorded accordingly. A weapon of this size is one up from a battlefield rocket. It was legally owned and incapable of achieving the range of a SCUD or SCUD derivative.

If the video had shown an Al Hussein then it would have been positive proof. What the video shows is an Ababil.

What a lot of people fail to understand is the fact that Iraq was allowed to maintain an armed forces capable of self-defence from its neighbours. This included short-range ballistics and even medium-range bombers. For example the Iraqi’s were allowed to operate such aircraft as the Tu-16 Badger.

[vin-one]

so what are you saying, other than to LOL. was there or was there not WMD’s prior to the invasion of IRAQ.

[hiredhand]

Ya’ll be careful what you say here. An IP address from NGA.MIL is reading this post.

[Blue State Insurgent]

Some Iraqi missiles hit Kuwait City during OIF. How far did those fly?

[visualops]

Oh c’mon, don’t you know a crayon when you see it? /lefty whacko