Virginia Tech Shooter - ISMAIL AX

SalemTheSoldier.us ^ | 17 April, 2007 | David J. Jonsson

[Old_Mil]

I can think of only one reason why any Asian would have the word “Ismail” anything written on him.

[Salem]

Although a lot of this is conjecture at this point, and it will be a long while as the shooter's reading and Internet habits are finally discovered, the "ISMAIL AX" markings on his arm are truly intriguing.

This article is author David J. Jonsson's view on the matter.

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[outofstyle]

It is possible, I guess.

[Kevmo]

Charles Henrickson has an alternative that seems to make a lot of sense.

ISMAIL AK
Dr. ISMAIL AK is a Professor of Psychiatry at a university in Turkey. His research interests include the following:

Personal Disorders, Agresivve behavior and self-mutilation, ECT, Substance-related disorders, Sexual Disorders, Forensic Psychiatry, Sleep Disorders

From the Turkish Association of Psychopharmacology website:

President-elect:
Professor Ismail AK, M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.

Dr. Ismail Ak is one of the authors of an article about patients with mental disorders, psychotic features, etc.:

As regards pharmacotherapies, 354 (50.2%) were given antidepressants. . . . Among antidepressants, Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were 72.8%. . . .

[Cornpone]

Good post Salem...but while we should expect to wait on the final report I wonder if we’ll ever hear the truth...The Euroweasels refuse to call a spade a spade...I think we are about there also...Remember “Islam is a religion of peace”...barf.

[jordan8]

Release the note!

[CindyDawg]

anyone know what it means?

[outofstyle]

I wonder if we’ll ever hear the truth...The Euroweasels refuse to call a spade a spade...

Some Euroweasels call a spade a spade, Spain's former PM for example. I think that if this kid was hanging on Islamist web sites it will come out.

[Fred Nerks]

On several other FR threads, the question has been raised; was it an ‘X’ or a ‘K’?

Considering the perps mental problems, he may have been in touch with the works of:

Professor Ismail AK,M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.

http://www.psikofarmakoloji.org/dernek/hakkimizda2_eng.asp

There is also this: http://ismailax.com/

[Salem]

"Charles Henrickson has an alternative that seems to make a lot of sense."

Now that's interesting. Perhaps the coroner and homicide investigators misinterpreted the AK to be AX.

[CindyDawg]

Ismail spelled backwards comes up on search several times. I’m wondering if it could also be a crytogram.

[Salem]

"Good post Salem...but while we should expect to wait on the final report I wonder if we’ll ever hear the truth..."

Yep. If there are any Islamic materials anywhere that were related to the shooter or they track his Internet traffic to any sites related to this, they will be loathe to make it public. It will take a FOIA ruling for anybody to see it.

[Cornpone]

"Yep. If there are any Islamic materials anywhere that were related to the shooter or they track his Internet traffic to any sites related to this, they will be loathe to make it public. It will take a FOIA ruling for anybody to see it."

Perverse isn't it! Not speaking specifically of this incident but in general I am amazed how the PC culture has influenced everyone to bury their heads in the sand and sow the seeds of their own destruction...by not acknowledging reality...we give safe harbour to those who would destroy us out of fear for their safety if people knew the truth...damn the fools.

[Salem]

You always have the interesting stuff, Fred!

Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the investigator's offices right now...

[Ciexyz]

Info bump.

[JerseyJohn61]

My immediate reaction to ISMAIL AX, knowing he was an
English major, was for a reference to “Moby Dick”.

ISMAIL ACTS, as if someone who had been questioning
his “control issues” was finally taking action....JJ61

[Charles Henrickson]

ISMAIL AK

Dr. ISMAIL AK is a Professor of Psychiatry at a university in Turkey. His research interests include the following:

Personal Disorders, Agresivve behavior and self-mutilation, ECT, Substance-related disorders, Sexual Disorders, Forensic Psychiatry, Sleep Disorders

From the Turkish Association of Psychopharmacology website:

President-elect:
Professor Ismail AK, M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.

Dr. Ismail Ak is one of the authors of an article about patients with mental disorders, psychotic features, etc.:

As regards pharmacotherapies, 354 (50.2%) were given antidepressants. . . . Among antidepressants, Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were 72.8%. . . .

This is an abstract of an article co-written by Dr. ISMAIL AK:

Even though all psychiatric disorders do not have the same potential with regard to committing a crime, the number of individuals having psychiatric disorders is gradually going up depending on the increase of crimes and violent behaviors committed in a society. . . . The relation between existence of psychiatric disorder and crime behavior has been significantly emphasized in several earlier studies. In conclusion, it is notable that the rates of committing crime for the individuals with psychiatric disorders are on the rise.

Dr. Ismail Ak is apparently one of the world's leading experts on the psychiatry of antisocial and suicidal behavior, psychotic and bipolar disorders, psychopharmacological therapy, etc.

The young man had been noticed to be disturbed and had been referred to counseling. Dr. Ismail Ak is an expert and author in the particular field most directly related to the guy's disorder.

So it's possible that the writing on the guy's arm said

ISMAIL AK

and the K was written in a way that people *thought* it said

ISMAIL AX

That seems more likely to me than a connection to Moby Dick or to Islamic terrorism or to Cooper’s story.

This is an angle the investigators need to pursue with the school's counseling service, the killer's computer, and Dr. Ismail Ak himself.

[Kevmo]

This stuff is worthy of its own thread. You should post it up...

[JerseyJohn61]

It’s gonna’ be interesting to hear what shows up on Chou’s
‘puter as his roomy claims he spent most of his free time
on it....JJ61