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Giuliani Pushes Pro-Choice on Sean Hannity Radio: Hannity Gives Him a Pass
Personal ^ | 22 Mar 07 | Personal

Posted on 03/22/2007 3:21:42 PM PDT by xzins

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To: pookie18

There are others who have had divorces. That isn't the issue. It is the nature of the last breakup that makes one wonder about trustworthiness.

My position has been clear all along.

All Rudy has to do to get my general election vote is recant his pro-choice views and demonstrate that he has sincerely accepted a minimal pro-life position (rape, incest, life of mother.)

If he doesn't do that I will be forced to vote for my primary choice in the general election as well.

That is the only way to telegraph to the party how many votes they threw away.


21 posted on 03/22/2007 4:51:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: KATIE-O

He flip-flopped on partial birth abortion about a month agao.


22 posted on 03/22/2007 4:54:13 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: xzins
That is the only way to telegraph to the party how many votes they threw away.

Yes, like the way we threw away the House & Senate in '06...you'll enjoy Hillary...I'm sure she'll accept your minimal pro-life position ;-)


23 posted on 03/22/2007 5:35:09 PM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: pookie18

I'm a conservative, not a republican.


24 posted on 03/22/2007 6:10:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

Then unless Thompson gets in & wins the nomination, you, in effect, will vote for Hillary or Barack...maybe they'll appoint conservative judges...


25 posted on 03/22/2007 6:43:21 PM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: xzins
Rudy is a lib... he sued gun makers, played kissy face with the gay/lesb community, generally did whatever he felt he had to do to win in NYC.

Do I want him as Prez? Nope.

I'd rather have Hillary than Rudy. At least the last Clinton in office helped us win a Congressional majority, most of the state legislatures and was a daily reminder of the pathetic, socialists that inhabit the democrat party.

The worse thing that could happen would be to elect a RINO that stabbed us in the back.

The choice is a conservative Republican or if not that, then the conservative candidate, even if its a third party.

I'm tired of getting the run around. I'll always do better than the libs.

I don't depend on the government, stay below the radar, and generally will work hard in order to provide for my family .... let the government change, it's all the same....

I believe the "WHO" said it best,

"Here's the new boss,
same as the old boss
Won't get fooled again...

26 posted on 03/22/2007 7:42:17 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Ol' Sparky; carenot
I just love the way Hannity claims to go after Republicans when they compromise while helping the same RINO-types get elected and re-elected. Hannity wants to give the appearance of being principled when he is nothing but a lap dog for the Republican party.

I get that impression, too.

27 posted on 03/22/2007 8:59:18 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: pookie18; P-Marlowe

Actually, if the rinos in the party nominate Rudy, they will be electing Hillary. I will be the one consistently voting conservative.

Life is not just an "issue." It is an unalienable RIGHT.

Without it no other "issues" matter. Dead men don't vote.


28 posted on 03/23/2007 4:51:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Dick Vomer

Exactly. Thanks.

See #28


29 posted on 03/23/2007 4:54:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
Yes, if we're attacked here...there won't be any inalienable rights. However, you've convinced me...like you, I'm now going to vote for Hillary too! Go, libs, go! Libs in '08! Appoint those pro-choice judges, Hill! You da (wo)man!!!


30 posted on 03/23/2007 5:40:38 AM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: pookie18; P-Marlowe

I don't think you grasp the distinction I'm making.

Life is not an issue. It is an right given by God.

God says, "Thou shalt not murder."

I am not ABLE or PERMITTED to vote for one who consistently affirms murdering innocent life.

The republicans are offering me a choice between Goebbels or Himmler.

My answer is neither.


31 posted on 03/23/2007 5:54:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
How do you know who the eventual nominee will be? It could be Thompson. IAC, I'm not a one-issue voter. I also realize that should the day ever come when Roe v. Wade is overturned, it will merely go back to the states...& those desiring abortions will merely go to those states...


32 posted on 03/23/2007 6:34:17 AM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: xzins; KATIE-O; pookie18
I simply cannot understand this obsession with Giuliani. But worse yet, I cannot understand how any allegedly pro-life republican or conservative could be throwing his or her hat in with Giuliani at this point. We have almost 10 months before the first primary and everyone seems to think that it's either Giuliani or Hillary. Well if that is the choice, then I'm voting for a third party.

I cannot actively vote for a president who thinks that the life of a child is simply a "choice" that belongs to someone else. The republicans cannot win a national election without the pro-life vote.

33 posted on 03/23/2007 6:35:14 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
You're reading selectively. I've already expressed my preference for Thompson. I supported Keyes in 2000, before voting for the eventual nominee (W). I'm again going to vote for the nominee...the Republican may nominate pro-life judges...the Democrat never will & the third party candidate won't get elected.


34 posted on 03/23/2007 6:40:26 AM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: pookie18; xzins; KATIE-O
the Republican may nominate pro-life judges

He may nominate them, but unless he is willing to literally give up his presidency over this issue, he will never get one through the Senate. Rudy may nominate one or two pro-life judges, but he will not put the necessary pressure on anyone to confrim them. He will pull their nominations and give us a bunch of Souters in exchange.

If you are pro-life, do not even pretend to support Rudy at this time. The pro-lifers need to make it known to the Republican Party that we are not going to allow a literally pro-abortion candidate to be the standard bearer for our party.

Throw your support 100% behind either Thompson or Duncan and let everyone know that you are not willing to compromise on this issue. As long as the pro-life movement is wishy washy on this subject, then we will never prevail either at the ballot box or in the courts.

Giuliani is NOT our man. Let that be known.


35 posted on 03/23/2007 6:49:36 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; pookie18; xzins; KATIE-O; narses

I don't think he'd ever nominate them in the first place. I think that his no-notice, public humiliation of his last wife shows us how he treats those who are inconvenient and need discarding.

He will only get my vote if he makes a demonstrably clear recantation of the pro-choice position, and makes a humble demonstrably verifiable affirmation of the pro-life position.

In short, he is not and will not be my nominee. Without the recantation above, I CANnot vote for him for president.

They will love the pro-life vote.


36 posted on 03/23/2007 8:05:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; pookie18; KATIE-O; narses; Revelation 911
There is always a hill you must be prepared to die on. The pro-life hill is that hill. Abortion is morally repugnant and is the premeditated murder of the most innocent of the human species.

God destroyed the old-testament civilizations that practiced child-sacrifice. He will not spare ours. Ultimately this country will be judged based upon how we treated the little children. The millstone is around our necks. We can choose to remove it or to be tossed into the sea. Yes we do have a "choice". The choice is "life or death, blessings or cursings". I implore all Americans and especially all Republicans. "Choose life, that you might live"

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: (Deuteronomy 30:19 KJV)

It is clear to me that if we as a nation choose to have leaders who are pro-death, that we will choose for ourselves and our posterity... death.

Unfortunately, at this point, it is clear that a vote for Rudy is a vote for death.

Choose life. Seek out a pro-life leader and work towards getting him elected. If we fail, then I believe it is because God has chosen judgment rather than mercy. If we succeed, then I believe it will show that God has chosen mercy over judgment.

Can we not pledge our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor to ensure that the blessings of liberty are given to our posterity? Or shall we continue to allow our posterity to be sacrificed on the altar of convienience and "privacy"?

37 posted on 03/23/2007 8:30:02 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; pookie18; KATIE-O; narses; Revelation 911
Can we not pledge our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor to ensure that the blessings of liberty are given to our posterity?

I will make that pledge.

Pro-life is the place at which we will make our stand.

I just read another thread about organ harvesting prior to brain-death. Ethicists are alarmed.

That, too, is a Life concern. If they will take the heart from a not-yet-dead man, then they will take the heart from a disabled man, and eventually from an inconvenient man, and finally from whomever they desire.

Endowed by their Creator with....LIFE!

38 posted on 03/23/2007 8:40:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: pookie18
I'd trust Rudy on the most important issue more than any other current nominee.

You trust him to nominate strict Constitutionalists to the judiciary despite the fact he appointed liberal judges by an 8-1 ratio in New York?

Apparently, illegal immigration, gun rights, abortion, the homosexual agenda and the global warming aren't issues of importance to you as RINO Rudy is further to the left on those issues than the average Democrat.

If conservatives can't support a conservative candidate for President, we don't have the brain power to defeat liberalism.

39 posted on 03/23/2007 10:29:17 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
Don't have time for this now...just drove down to VA to visit my son & family.

The most important issue to which I referred was the war on terror.

Re judges, Rudy had very few conservatives to select from in NYC. Again (ad nauseum), I'm voting for the Republican nominee & hope that's Fred Thompson. However, whoever it is they'll still give me more of a chance at better judges than would a Democrat president...unless it was Zell Miller...

40 posted on 03/23/2007 6:38:32 PM PDT by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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