Posted on 01/27/2007 1:26:55 PM PST by S. T. Karnick
Bye-bye! He is a loser. And a liar. And an adulterer. A gun-grabbing baby-killer as well. And your choice! No wonder you run.
Better loosen up that blind fold you're wearing, because those bills are coming down the pike in the few months in Congress, and you better hope that the RINOs don't vote with them, and Bush doesn't sign it, or you can kiss the GOP goodbye, and not just in '08.
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My analysis in Post 4 is correct and factual. I stand on it. Although I don't think you ever read it. I just don't like arguing with judmental, name callers, extremist like you. That's why I'm leaving.
They aren't going to come down the pike.
Oh please! There are plenty of reasons to not support Giuliani, but this isn't one of them. He had prostate cancer for God's sake! He could barely make it through the day without taking naps because of the treatment, and was throwing up constantly.
Fault the guy for his positions all you want, but don't fault him for not being superman.
LOL, yeah, you back a known loser and you whine. So do tell, since you care nothing about the issues of guns, gays or life - what matters to you?
~ Rudy supports big government Republicanism.
* Conservatives support limited government.
~ Rudy has supported gun control and an assault weapons ban.
* Conservatives oppose gun control and an assault weapons ban.
~ Rudy has supported abortion on demand and a ban on partial birth abortion.
* Conservatives oppose abortion on demand and support a ban on partial birth abortion.
~ Rudy has supported and even promoted special rights for homos.
* Conservatives oppose special rights for anyone.
~ Rudy supports liberal immigration reform, amnesty and a path to citizenship for illegals.
* Conservatives are opposed to liberal immigration reform, amnesty and a path to citizenship for illegals.
There is nothing conservative about Rudy Giuliani. Rudy`s major accomplishment upon leaving office as Mayor of NYCity was to reduce crime. The current liberal mayor of NYCity Mike Bloomberg has also reduced crime. Doesn't mean conservatives will vote for either Giuliani or Bloomberg to be POTUS. Only a moderate, centrist or liberal Republican could vote for Rudy. Unless you pull a "Vito Fossella", and sell out your conservative principles for the liberal bandwagon of Rudy Giuliani. Rudy`s given a lifetime of support to liberal policies and liberal causes, and that should be a turnoff to anyone who calls themselves a conservative.
Your positions here are over-broad and subjective, and you boiling down the 'conservative' position to what you say it is, is arrogant to the max.
That said, I'm not a Rudy supporter, and I didn't even comment on any of these issues. You attacked him for having the unmittigated gall to have prostate cancer. That's stupid.
Yeah, Rudy is so against gay marriage that he signed legislature to make any "partnership" equal to marriage under the law.
He fought to protect illegal immigrants from arrest when they use our hospitals, essentially fighting to give free health care to illegal immigrants at the taxpayers' expense. And he also fought to protect them when they send their children to our schools.
Yeah, he cut social welfare for citizens but he increased social welfare for illegals at the taxpayers' expense.
and yes, he's a gun-grabber who went so far as to file lawsuits against 26 U.S. handgun manufacturers in June 2000, seeking compensation for New Yorkers shot by illegal guns.
You say its not an issue? Well, I think he's just the kind of the guy to make it an issue if he's elected.
Sorry, but Rudy is for almost everything I am against.
Now we are going to see if those NRA A and A+ ratings, both Republican and democrat count for something..." 2/22/07
Didn't take months after all...coming "down the pike" in days. Time to take your head out of the sand, but then it was time a couple of weeks ago when I told you it was on the way and you said the Democrats would NEVER do that!
I believe it will they pass it which I don't think they will.
YES! YES! YES! And you think that Rudy wouldn't sign this if it's passed by the Democrats and Rinos? Bush has already said he would (AFTER being elected) and the Republicans, to save him from himself, never took it up. Rudy has said he is for this BEFORE being elected. This is the BEST reason I know of to NEVER EVER vote for Rudy in the primary or the general should he get the nomination, but Rudy will NOT be the Republican nominee because he will NOT get the votes of 2nd Amendment voters whether it passes or not and whether Bush signs it or not.
I'm not going to sacrfice electability for any one issue. Like Michael Reagan said, we don't need litmus tests. I believe Rudy is the only one that can beat Hillary and Hillary would be worse on the 2nd Amendment than Rudy and worse on every other issue, most of which Rudy is right on. No President is perfect. Heck, Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegal immigrants. And like I said, I don't think Congress will pass it.
True! But I prefer mine to have a little respect for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That's the reason I can't vote for Democrats or liberal Republicans. Obviously you are only interested in winning the Presidency even though winning and losing in a Rudy vs. Hillary race is the same thing.
Rudy's not perfect on the 2nd Amendment but he's not going to try to ban all guns and take them away. Hillary might though.
"Not perfect on the 2nd Amendment" - Wow! What an understatement!
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