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NCIS Exposed:Criminals, Thugs, and Liars Bringing Down Marines
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 20, 2007 | David Allender

Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover

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To: RedRover

Another hit! Have you been contacted for syndication rights?


201 posted on 01/24/2007 9:53:22 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RedRover
All the accused have been found guilty in the press anyway, so the public isn't paying any attention.

Making a fair trial an impossiblity!

That will happen this Friday.

They switched from Thursday to Friday KNOWING I wouldn't be available. Thanks to you and the gang I will be able to catch up on Sunday.

202 posted on 01/24/2007 9:59:05 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover

Oh man, you're cold Jaz! Love ya Red!


203 posted on 01/24/2007 10:00:53 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: lilycicero

G'night lily! Sorry I arrived so late as to miss all the fun.


204 posted on 01/24/2007 10:04:22 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RedRover

Re. NCIS LIES AND NO VIDEO TAPE

This looks good. Are you going to post on FR? How about adding Hamdania as a key word since a lot of this is related to that case.


205 posted on 01/24/2007 10:10:13 PM PST by Girlene
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To: smoothsailing
By stating unequivocally that Marines "killed in cold blood", he had to be certain his source was accurate.
To your knowledge of these matters, was he entitled to know?

Not trying to answer for our JAG friend however, last May the second investigation had just began. It was not completed until the end of September, IIRC. There was no way for any one, least of all al Murthawi, to know anything for certain. If you will recall Gen. Pace flatly refused to comment on the case the same day al Murthawi played judge, jury and executioner.

206 posted on 01/24/2007 10:10:25 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
What you say is accurate to a point. Maybe our JAG pal will respond, maybe not.
207 posted on 01/24/2007 10:18:21 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo

Hmmmmm, it appears there will be no reply forthcoming. At least not tonight. Must be in, or under the bed! Black helos scare some people, doncha know. ;*)


208 posted on 01/24/2007 10:21:03 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
Well, maybe tomorrow...

I'm off.

G'Night Darlin'! ;-)

209 posted on 01/24/2007 10:22:40 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

P.S. Whaddayamean...to a point. Did I misremember sumpin?


210 posted on 01/24/2007 10:22:41 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: smoothsailing
Man, party pooper! Not like the old days when we could be found hanging out until 2 or 3 trying to keep Jaz awake. LOL!

Good night dear FRiend. Sleep well and don't the Black Helos keep you awake. ;*)

211 posted on 01/24/2007 10:24:31 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody; smoothsailing

I know those black helos scare me, I'm no dummy. :-)

Looks like he's off for tonight, maybe we'll hear something tomorrow.

G'Night, Smooth.


212 posted on 01/24/2007 10:27:52 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
I am thankful I only have green helos buzzing my place.

Well, if no one wants to play, I suppose a little sleep wouldn't kill me. ;*)

213 posted on 01/24/2007 10:29:23 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

Golly!! This has to be a record for you, Justa. I didn't think you ever made it to bed till the sun was coming up. :-)

We'll talk tomorrow, Justa.

G'Night


214 posted on 01/24/2007 10:33:13 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
It's like this...I have slept 3 hours in the past 26.
Yes, tomorrow. G'night! ;*)
215 posted on 01/24/2007 10:38:09 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: ArmyLawyer05
What I can make an informed comment on is the lack of accuracy in describing how the JAG corps functions apparent in this thread.

The subject of the thread is shocking misconduct on the part of the NCIS to gain convictions. I'm glad to be corrected about functions of the JAG corp, but none of that speaks to the larger issue at hand.

I understand that the "I" stands for "Investigative". But cases are won based on evidence prepared by investigators. Whoops, mistake. As you acknowledge, most cases are won because the accused plead guilty. So doesn't the manner in which those guilty pleas are extracted interest you even a teensy bit?

According to the article you exerpted on your blog, "military adherence to and spreading of the fundamental values of American society also are necessary to win the war on terrorism." Doesn't that apply to all parties within the military justice system? Or does it only apply to men and women on the battlefield?

I'm no expert on the functions of the JAG corps and don't pretend to be. There are serious and deeply troubling allegations about misconduct on the part of investigators arising out of the war in Iraq. I wish I could turn to expert commentary on these cases but there isn't any. Bloggers, writers, commentators on the military justice system are ignoring an unfolding story of vital importance.

216 posted on 01/25/2007 6:03:22 AM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

I can't speak authoritatively on what precisely Murtah was told or by whom. My guess is that it wasn't coming from a JAG.


217 posted on 01/25/2007 6:26:03 AM PST by ArmyLawyer05
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To: Just A Nobody

Lawfare is not meant to supplant warfare. It's a complement to it.

In the same way that information warfare is a complement to the actual blowing of stuff up, so too is lawfare.


218 posted on 01/25/2007 6:26:04 AM PST by ArmyLawyer05
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To: ArmyLawyer05
Understood. My comment was primarily directed at what Div.48 will do with the term.

Are you a member of Division 48 or APA?

219 posted on 01/25/2007 7:17:23 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: ArmyLawyer05
I can't speak authoritatively on what precisely Murtah was told or by whom. My guess is that it wasn't coming from a JAG.

Fair enough, and BTW, Welcome to Free Republic!

As an Army lawyer, what is your professional opinion of details of an on-going criminal investigation being leaked to the press? What is the obligation of the military when this occurs? Is due process a consideration? Do such leaks constitute a breach of trust?

How can defendants rights be protected when this occurs? is there an obligation on the part of the military to investigate leaks?

220 posted on 01/25/2007 7:57:05 AM PST by smoothsailing
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