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NCIS Exposed:Criminals, Thugs, and Liars Bringing Down Marines
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 20, 2007 | David Allender

Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover

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181 posted on 01/24/2007 7:49:38 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: ArmyLawyer05
Take it easy on the JAG bashing here folks. We took the same oath. We serve just as honorably. Keep that in mind.

Well, it certainly didn't take you long to find us! Are you here to join the conversation?

Perhaps you'd like to comment on the current state of the NCIS. Two of your JAG brothers excoriated the NCIS when they defended Petty Officer Daniel King in 2001 but are strangely silent now. I would love to see some evidence of that honorable service.

182 posted on 01/24/2007 8:09:58 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Interesting, looks like the word is getting out.


183 posted on 01/24/2007 8:28:33 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Girlene; pinkpanther111; freema; Just A Nobody; smoothsailing; jazusamo; flightline; euphoriadev; ..
I posted this blog entry tonight. Hope anyone with ties to military bloggers can pass it around and help get the word out. If we're not watching, no one will be: NCIS Lies and No Video Tape

January 24, 2007

Lies and No Video Tape

So many Marines and sailors have become one of "the accused"  that it's hard to keep track of them all.

And since the Naval Criminal Investigative Service has a conviction rate of 96%, there's no drama in the trials. Anyone charged by the NCIS will almost certainly be convicted. All the accused have been found guilty in the press anyway, so the public isn't paying any attention. 

But a 26 year-old Marine officer, 2nd Lt.  Nathan Phan, is not with the program. He is fighting back.

Lt. Phan’s Article 32 hearing on Friday, January 26th, should be a major news story. His lawyer, David Sheldon, is set to expose the NCIS. 

On January 12th, Phan’s hearing came to an abrupt halt when a witness, Lance Cpl. Christopher Faulkner testified that the NCIS had falsified his statement. Two other Marines have sworn affidavits that their statements, written by NCIS agents, also contained outright lies. All three Marines were witnesses and have nothing to gain.

NCIS agent, Kelly Garbo, was asked on the witness stand about her role in preparing false statements. Garbo denied that the statements were false but admitted that no audio or video tapes had been made. Statements were written from memory by agents after the fact and were signed by the witness.

Faulkner testified that he was asked to sign his statement while he was on guard duty. He was only given minutes to review the statement before signing, Faulkner said.

The hearing was halted so that all three NCIS could testify.

That will happen this Friday.

Chances are that the agents (Kelly Garbo, Kyle Casey, and James Connolly) will deny everything. The NCIS can count on the fact that no one is paying attention to the case anyway.

Hope you’ll be one of those who will. A bright light needs to be shined on the NCIS.

Many young lives are literally at stake.

By the way, Nathan Phan faces as much as 28 years in prison if found guilty.

184 posted on 01/24/2007 8:30:41 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: jazusamo

When the black helicopters take me away, tell Mother my last thoughts were of home. (Tee-hee!)


185 posted on 01/24/2007 8:33:03 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Heh Heh...I'd promise to go your bail but we won't know where you are. So long, Red.


186 posted on 01/24/2007 8:39:33 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover; lilycicero
OK, I posted the first blog entry from the NCIS page. Military Courts: Unequal Justice (12-16-02) I plan to just work my way down the page in order, unless you folks want me to get certain ones done first!
187 posted on 01/24/2007 8:48:53 PM PST by pinkpanther111 (They were doing their jobs!!! Defend our Marines)
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That looks good, Panther. Haven't read it yet but will later. You all have been doing all the lifting so it's up to you how to do it.


188 posted on 01/24/2007 8:54:13 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: RedRover

I checked my sitemeter.

I'm not going to touch the King case nor NCIS, I wasn't there and cannot (and won't) make an informed comment. Nor do I presently interact with NCIS. Nor will I comment on the various prosecutions ongoing, it would be both unprofessional and unethical.

What I can make an informed comment on is the lack of accuracy in describing how the JAG corps functions apparent in this thread.

Though I'll note with irony that my comment re serving honorably was re fellow JAGs, and you note that fellow JAGs took the NCIS investigators in the King case to task for their actions. That would indicate they (the JAGs) are acting honorably.

Regarding their current "silence," what would you expect them to do? You want currently serving officers to show up on Hardball and start commenting on an ongoing case? Yeah ok.

Alternatively, they might simply not be following the case.


189 posted on 01/24/2007 8:54:40 PM PST by ArmyLawyer05
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To: RedRover
NCIS is not JAG. NCIS is (like the tv show) investigators. NCIS doesn't have a conviction rate as they don't prosecute cases. And as I noted, the high conviction rate is because the vast majority of courts-martial are guilty pleas rather than contested cases. (There's a similarly high conviction rate in regular state court for the same reason--for example: the San Diego DA's office has a 94% conviction rate.) Going to assume malfeasance on their part now too?
190 posted on 01/24/2007 8:54:43 PM PST by ArmyLawyer05
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To: RedRover

Great observation!


191 posted on 01/24/2007 8:58:44 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: pinkpanther111

Let me know if I should add anything.


192 posted on 01/24/2007 9:02:44 PM PST by pinkpanther111 (They were doing their jobs!!! Defend our Marines)
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To: jazusamo

Well this week I have been distracted, just now getting back to it. I will try to post one a day...


193 posted on 01/24/2007 9:03:37 PM PST by pinkpanther111 (They were doing their jobs!!! Defend our Marines)
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Good night!


194 posted on 01/24/2007 9:08:28 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: ArmyLawyer05
I'm not going to touch the King case nor NCIS, I wasn't there and cannot (and won't) make an informed comment. Nor do I presently interact with NCIS. Nor will I comment on the various prosecutions ongoing, it would be both unprofessional and unethical.

Quite frankly, I find that refreshing.

One thing that has troubled me throughout these various investigations and cases is the leaked information.

As an example, when Cong. John Murtha stated back in May of last year that he knew what the outcome of the investigation of the Haditha Marines would be.I've always wondered how he knew.By stating unequivocally that Marines "killed in cold blood", he had to be certain his source was accurate.

To your knowledge of these matters, was he entitled to know? If not, how could he have found out? Who would share such information?

195 posted on 01/24/2007 9:11:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: RedRover
Every time the actions of the United States and its military are seen as incompatible with the values the military espouses, the United States hands radical Islamism a round of ammunition.

This sentence explains a lot, IMO. There are many comments to be made, but I will refrain.

The increasing importance of law in this conflict ...

Increse of 'importance' or 'use' of law in this war?

196 posted on 01/24/2007 9:12:04 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RedRover

If a FR's date is 1/25/07 and it is still 1/24/07...where would that put me?


197 posted on 01/24/2007 9:15:04 PM PST by lilycicero (I believe SSGT Wuterich did his job well.)
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To: freema

Pour me a cup!


198 posted on 01/24/2007 9:17:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: RedRover
“lawfare,” ... as a weapon to be wielded both by and against US forces.

If you read any of the links I posted this morning, this fits perfectly. The goal of The Society for the Study of Peace, Conflict and Violence: Peace Psychology Division of the American Psychological Association Division 48 is the pursuit of peace. Peace is defined as the absence of war. No war, for any reason.

They are working to apply the methods of psychology to advance peace, promote conflict resolution without violence, and the prevention of war and other forms of destructive conflict.

One of the tactics the anti-war movement has used for 40 years involves redefinition of words. IOW, Lawfare as opposed to Warfare, Conflict not War, Dialog vs Debate and the latest...Conversation vs Argument.

199 posted on 01/24/2007 9:36:44 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: ArmyLawyer05
First: Thank you for your service to our country and welcome to FreeRepublic. Frankly, I have wondered when one of you would show up.

Additionally, we (the vast majority of JAGs) do not write the ROE.

It is good that you qualified your comment. JAGs do write, or assist in writing the ROE. Or so a JAG friend that did so informed me.

Non-controversial is in the mind of the reader, IMO.

200 posted on 01/24/2007 9:51:40 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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