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Did the U.S. just provoke Iran?
Salon ^ | Jan 12, 2007 | Juan Cole

Posted on 01/12/2007 10:40:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Wings-n-Wind

I like it!


21 posted on 01/12/2007 11:40:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Provoke?

Like they're rabid dogs and cannot be held liable for their actions.


22 posted on 01/12/2007 11:41:29 AM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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Adding this in here:

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The press is the propaganda arm of the American left and they have an agenda...see this:

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left

23 posted on 01/12/2007 11:41:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Then Thursday came a U.S. raid on an Iranian consulate in the Iraqi Kurdish city of Irbil.

Well it was not really an Iranian consulate

24 posted on 01/12/2007 11:43:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Wings-n-Wind
The Iranians are next

Our Navy has been jousting with the Iranians in the Gulf every day, apparently. There's a long-standing dispute on just where the sea boundary between Iraq and Iran is. The Revolutionary Guards' naval arm is constantly testing our guys over this imaginary line. I am told that the official, old-school Iranian navy is a lot more professional about this than the revolutionaries.

25 posted on 01/12/2007 11:57:38 AM PST by Argus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK

Deja Vu time again.

Since Pearl Harbor, we have used an old tactic to get the enemy which wants to kill us to act in a hostile manner to our warriors. Then we can say, "They attacked us first!"


26 posted on 01/12/2007 12:38:09 PM PST by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well it was not really an Iranian consulate.

Thanks for helping cut through the anti-American smoke screen put up by the press.

27 posted on 01/12/2007 12:43:14 PM PST by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amendment then you don't understand America.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; DrZin; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Dog; Dog Gone

Freeper Dr Zin has a great site and has just posted these comments in a Free Republic Thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1766579/posts

Top News Story
Ahmadinejad's strategic guru captured in Iraq?

Reuters reported that U.S. forces stormed an Iranian government representative's office in the northern Iraqi city of Arbil early on Thursday and arrested five people, including diplomats and staff.

Iran Press News reported that based on unconfirmed received reports from reliable sources in Iraq, Hassan Abbasi was among those who was arrested in the Thursday, January 11th early-morning raid in the Iraqi town of Arbil.
DoctorZin, Regime Change Iran -

If confirmed, Hassan Abbasi's capture would be a major blow to the Iranian effort to support the insurgency in Iraq. He is believed to have been organizing the various insurgency groups under a common umbrella.

Abbasi is perhaps best known as the Iranian leader who claimed: “There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them."




Bush Warns Iranians


Eli Lake, The New York Sun reported that President Bush says we are effectively at war with Iran.


28 posted on 01/12/2007 12:43:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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See this and see Senator Biden's comments.....highlighted at post #2:

US denies military plans against Iran, Syria

29 posted on 01/12/2007 2:46:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Washington Note wondered aloud if Bush had issued an executive order to commence military action against Iran and Syria. Was the raid a deliberate provocation and the preface to war?

We can only hope he did and it is.

30 posted on 01/12/2007 3:05:05 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Grampa Dave
If the current policy changes in Rules of Engagement for all units in the theater, any act, such as an aircraft or SAM site employing targeting radar (high PRF) could invite retaliation.

Time for the Early Warning A/C to start earning their paychecks.
31 posted on 01/12/2007 5:47:28 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Did the US just provoke Iran? Does a hobby horse have a wooden pecker (as my roomates from NC, in the 60's might have asked).
I do wonder a bit if it will turn out one of our subs launched a nuclear missile into the Iranian desert as a warning.
Of course as the rather illustrious picture shows up often at this site showing the ugly face of Ahmadinajadi screaming... "nuke me", he would care less. He wants world chaos. But how many of the Iranian Mullahs prefere death to living in luxuary.
32 posted on 01/12/2007 6:37:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"..Then Thursday came a U.S. raid on an Iranian consulate in the Iraqi Kurdish city of Irbil..."

The "consulate" is not a consulate.

‘US raid on Iranian office unacceptable’

"..The statement referred to the raid as being directed against “the Iranian consulate general” and described five Iranians arrested as “diplomats.” Iraq’s foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, denied this Friday, saying that the Iranians had been working officially in Iraq but as part of a “liaison office” that was yet to be classified as a consulate with diplomatic protection..."

33 posted on 01/12/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks E.


34 posted on 01/13/2007 12:10:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("I've learned to live with not knowing." -- Richard Feynman https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Robert Rules of Order....

Point of Order, Point of Order...

Granted...Iran declared WAR on the USA in 1979 with the invasion and takeover of the USA embassy in Teheran.

This WAR has never been closed. It is ongoing. The current President and Ruling Council all support continued action against the USA.

Because we have not responded since 1979 does not mean that the WAR does not exist. Only Dick Durbin could be so stupid as to think that.

Any action against Iran is warranted and allowed under all Conventions! (Geneva, Sun Tzu and UN!).


35 posted on 01/13/2007 12:20:15 AM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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