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"Testing the Testers"
Amherst Times ^ | 8 January 2007 | Christopher Drew

Posted on 01/08/2007 5:22:51 PM PST by lifelong_republican

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The electronic votefraud systems also generate fake votes, and just fail so badly that voters are forced to endure long lines and even get discouraged until they give up without voting.

Real Americans want real ballots.

1 posted on 01/08/2007 5:22:54 PM PST by lifelong_republican
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To: lifelong_republican

something smells like...ozone


2 posted on 01/08/2007 5:31:54 PM PST by G-dzilla (Real Americans want tax reform, and securing the border, and traditional family values, and...)
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To: lifelong_republican

Setting up for voter fraud in 2008!


3 posted on 01/08/2007 5:38:13 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: lifelong_republican

And it took you nearly two months to come up with this hypothesis? Based on what? And article from the Amherst Times?

You need to diversify your reading.

It's already been stated repeatedly that the voting machines have been tested and retested with NO FAULTS FOUND.


4 posted on 01/08/2007 5:39:08 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: lifelong_republican

>>>Real Americans want real ballots.

We have paper ballots where you fill in the oval next to the candidate's name - they are machine counted - in the event of machine problems, one can always hand-count ballots. Best of both worlds.


5 posted on 01/08/2007 5:41:26 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Liberals: First to demand tolerance, last to practice it when conservatives disagree with them.)
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To: lifelong_republican

Try this:

"Electronic Voting: The Catastrophe That Wasn't"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1739806/posts


6 posted on 01/08/2007 5:42:14 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Keith in Iowa

My first choice also. I think they're called called "optical scanners"


7 posted on 01/08/2007 5:43:36 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: lifelong_republican

Interesting posting history you have, FRiend. Does anything else in this great kaleidoscope of ideas interest you?


8 posted on 01/08/2007 5:50:49 PM PST by IslandJeff (TGIM!)
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To: OldFriend
"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes
-Stalin
9 posted on 01/08/2007 5:52:37 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: G-dzilla

Well, if you're in a cloud of ozone it won't help you avoid being duped into giving up your right to your vote.

People who know computers know not to have false trust in them.


10 posted on 01/08/2007 6:08:34 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: OldFriend

Yes, OldFriend, there won't be any valid elections in the USA in 2008 unless real ballots are restored.


11 posted on 01/08/2007 6:09:47 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: Bigh4u2

You seem to be referring to some 'hypothesis', when the subject is the fact that the electronics aren't suitable for use in elections.

You mention tests which found no problems, but no such tests exist.

Do you want to try to spread disinformation hoping to cost Americans their votes because you despise them?


12 posted on 01/08/2007 6:12:08 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I totally agree with you, Keith. While opscan equipment can be manipulated, the paper ballots themselves can be counted via separate independent means. A law requires that in Pennsylvania but the corrupt Democrats of the Rendell mob are violating that law, intentionally.


13 posted on 01/08/2007 6:13:34 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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Yes, OldFriend, there won't be any valid elections in the USA in 2008 unless real ballots are restored.

Real ballots handled by real Democratic state and county officials. What's the matter? Can't figure out how to steal elections with this new equipment?

I was a precinct judge in California and I thought the system (it does generate a paper trail) was much superior to the paper ballots.

There will always be thievery and it will always be democrats. However until they figure out how to compromise the system we may have some honest elections.

14 posted on 01/08/2007 6:23:29 PM PST by oldbrowser (This war isn't over until it's OVER.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Yes, and in a tight race or even a supposedly not tight race, a question of recount is made and all of a sudden, the vote counters are saying you can intreprut the intent of the voter (i.e., 2000, and the 2004 vote in Washington state.

So how is a paper ballot any better? And for punch card ballots, you keep fanning the cards enough, and extra openings will appear and hte ballot for your canidates is thrown out, and the other canidate now wins.


15 posted on 01/08/2007 6:30:17 PM PST by TexasAggie65
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To: Bigh4u2

Electronic 'voting' really is a catastrophe, unless you like in when American voters have to wait in line too long, see their votes get lost, switched, and faked, and turn over their representation in government to the corrupt Democrats and the communist Chinese.

National Geographic has published an article on the unreliability of the electronics mentioning university studies.

The General Accounting Office of the US Congress has reported on the unsuitability of the electronics.

The Brennan Center has issued a report on the problem.

NIST has acknowledged the significance of the flaws.

If you learn at least a little about about computer security you will not ever want to hand off your vote to unknown computers run by unknown people.


16 posted on 01/08/2007 6:32:32 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: IslandJeff

Please tell me what opinion on what issue would be anything but moot once you have handed off your right to vote.


17 posted on 01/08/2007 6:33:44 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: Bigh4u2
It's already been stated repeatedly that the voting machines have been tested and retested with NO FAULTS FOUND.

Not so! The opposite has been proven. The following code was found detected in the programming for ALL MAJOR VOTING MACHINE versions:

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if (candidate_name=="McKinney, Cynthia") then
{
     execute_subroutine("flip_every_fourth_vote_to_opponent()")
}

18 posted on 01/08/2007 6:38:44 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: oldbrowser

The paper trails aren't the same as voter-verified paper ballots. There is no real accountability when you use a secret computer in secret ways to produce whatever it might. The screen and paper might show something other than what gets sent to tabulation.

Are you trying to claim that the corrupt Democrats aren't already manipulating elections?

Voters saw their votes for Rick Santorum switched to his opponent in Pennsylvania in the last election.


19 posted on 01/08/2007 6:39:07 PM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

This was CONFIRMED BTW by McKinney's campaign people, who did the testing.


20 posted on 01/08/2007 6:40:08 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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